Re: tolerance of lack of same/ alone

In many funny ways....

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Mon, 01 Dec 2003 11:21:05 -0600

>Lucky indeed.
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>
>Jesse Rene' Bell
>Claremore, OK
>Zone 6
>"People are like stained glass windows.  They sparkle and shine when the sun 
>is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if 
>there is a light from within. - Elisabeth Keble-Ross-"
>
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>>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:07:12 -0600
>>
>>Your girls are incredible - they're so far ahead of their peers!! And
>>gorgeous. Much like their mother. And they have compassion and insight
>>far beyond their tender years. I am fortunate. I have a mother who is so
>>strong and so intelligent despite the lack of formal education. She is
>>well-read and brought me up the same way. I was reading Homer at 9 and
>>Shakespeare at 10. And she has a will and backbone of steel. She raised
>>us (my brother and I) to be like that. Aren't we lucky??
>>
>>
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:48:28 -0600
>>
>> >Now see?  That's why I garden.  I give to the earth, the earth gives 
>>back,
>> >and you in turn give to others who probably would have NEVER bothered to
>> >figure out that a luffa is a gourd and not something from the bottom of 
>>the
>> >sea!  You  educated them, you got them excited about gardening and 
>>growing
>> >things that are new to them and they will in turn, share with others.  
>>That
>> >is a wonderful thing Pam.  And those women are those type who put their
>> >identity in a man and not themselves.  I tell my girls to marry somebody 
>>who
>> >COMPLIMENTS their life, not compromises it.  Somebody who appreciates 
>>them
>> >for who they really are...and if nobody does...then SO WHAT?  Others 
>>will.
>> >But if they believe in themselves and glow from within....they will 
>>attract
>> >somebody who will appreciate that.  I refuse to raise doormats.  Your 
>>mother
>> >raised you to be strong....Amazon women and Valkyries were strong
>> >women...and remember "Well behaved women rarely make history".  So there.
>> >
>> >Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >Claremore, OK
>> >Zone 6
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>> >>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:01:31 -0600
>> >>
>> >>Well thanks lady, I appreciate that. I just know I'll never understand
>> >>people if I live to be a hundred. And people wonder why I prefer the
>> >>company of animals and plants?? Figure it out Einstein. On a joyous
>> >>note, I took a bucket full of luffa gourds to work and people were
>> >>totally excited about making their own luffa sponges and snapping them
>> >>up!! It was awesome. I handed out drying and processing instructions and
>> >>everyone was acting like I'd discovered how to split the atom or
>> >>something. It was a very educational experience for these folks and some
>> >>are even bound and determined to grow gourds next year. That was very
>> >>cool indeed.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >>From: "Andrea H" <hodgesaa@islc.net>
>> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >>Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:52:07 -0500
>> >>
>> >> >Oh Pam, just remember what Jesse says. 'People are stupid!" It's hard 
>>to
>> >> >ignore remarks like that sometimes though. Especially when you are
>> >>feeling
>> >> >icky already. WE don't think you're strange!
>> >> >A
>> >> >
>> >> >Andrea H
>> >> >Beaufort, SC
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> >> >From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>> >> >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> >Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:51 PM
>> >> >Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> One more example of this one mule town and I'll shut up. Our water 
>>was
>> >> >> off today (main break on the next street) so I couldn't water. I 
>>went
>> >> >> next door to saw hello to the older couple who run the snack bar at 
>>the
>> >> >> auction, who are dear people and have become friends. In the 
>>background
>> >> >> you could hear a couple old biddies. "whos' that" "oh my dear, don't
>> >>you
>> >> >> know?" "no" "that's THAT woman who lives next door" "oh no, that one
>> >>who
>> >> >> lives alone w/ that big cat and all those plants?" "oh yes, haven't 
>>you
>> >> >> heard about HER?"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Like I have leprosy or something?? Ruth gave them a withering look, 
>>I
>> >> >> rolled my eyes and said good evening and left. Ugh. This my friends 
>>is
>> >> >> what I contend w/ every day. Water off a duck's back for the most 
>>part,
>> >> >> but I had an abominable headache and found it annoying tonight. What
>> >> >> fun.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Like my neighbor Joanne says "get a life - get a garden".  A retired
>> >> >Special Ed teacher - she's fabulous!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Happy Thanksgiving to all BTW...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >> >> From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
>> >> >> Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >> Date:  Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:23:38 -0600
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Hey, I can relate.  Truly.  A housefull of teenagers is not for the
>> >>faint
>> >> >of
>> >> >> >heart let me tell ya.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> >> >Claremore, OK
>> >> >> >Zone 6
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>From: kmrsy@comcast.net
>> >> >> >>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >> >>To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >> >>Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>> >> >> >>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:24:28 +0000
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Jesse,
>> >> >> >>reminds me of a story my mother told of how, when I was an infant,
>> >>Pat
>> >> >> >>was ~20mos, and Sue was 5-6 yrs. Once every few wks she got a 
>>night
>> >>out
>> >> >> >>all by her lonesome and went to a movie. That night it was pouring
>> >>rain,
>> >> >> >>she couldn't get a cab, her umbrella broke in the wind, the heel 
>>came
>> >> >> >>off her shoe, she fell down a hill, and missed half the movie. She
>> >>said
>> >> >> >>it was worth it to get that time alone.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Kitty
>> >> >> >> > OH man...I hear ya Gene.  Love my husband, love my kids...but I
>> >>would
>> >> >> >>really
>> >> >> >> > like to be able to take a bath or go to the bathroom without
>> >>somebody
>> >> >> >> > calling my name or walking in on me.  It gets old.  And no 
>>matter
>> >>how
>> >> >> >>much I
>> >> >> >> > gripe...it seems to fall on deaf ears!!  I'm 41...hitting that
>> >>time
>> >> >in
>> >> >> >>my
>> >> >> >> > life when some alone time is needed and very much required.  My
>> >> >family
>> >> >> >> > doesn't seem to understand that.  It's "honey, honey, honey and
>> >>mom,
>> >> >> >>mom,
>> >> >> >> > mom".  Ughhh.  The youngest three children are all 15 years
>> >> >old...they
>> >> >> >>can
>> >> >> >> > fend for themselves for awhile.  And I have to ask my husband
>> >>every
>> >> >now
>> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >> > then "What did you do before you married me and you were a 
>>single
>> >> >> >> > father...try to remember...and do that again for me, huh?"  I
>> >> >remember
>> >> >> >>my
>> >> >> >> > mother going throught this very same thing...and thinking 
>>"geez,
>> >>what
>> >> >a
>> >> >> >> > grouch!".  There were five kids in that household...and my 
>>father
>> >>did
>> >> >> >> > NOTHING to help around there.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Jesse Rene' Bell
>> >> >> >> > Claremore, OK
>> >> >> >> > Zone 6
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > >From: "Gene Bush" <genebush@otherside.com>
>> >> >> >> > >Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> >> >> >> > >To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> >> >> >> > >Subject: Re: [CHAT]tolerance of lack of same/ alone
>> >> >> >> > >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:08:18 -0500
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >Hello Kitty,
>> >> >> >> > >     I found that the longer one lives alone the more 
>>difficult
>> >>it
>> >> >is
>> >> >> >>to
>> >> >> >> > >form
>> >> >> >> > >a relationship where the two of you move in together, marry or
>> >>what
>> >> >> >>ever
>> >> >> >> > >you
>> >> >> >> > >choose where you live together *all the time*. Whew!! The
>> >>changes,
>> >> >the
>> >> >> >> > >adapting to taking another into consideration if you simply
>> >>wanted
>> >> >to
>> >> >> >>go to
>> >> >> >> > >the bathroom by yourself. Been married for a bit now and still
>> >>have
>> >> >> >>trouble
>> >> >> >> > >once in a while with two people in this house at the same 
>>time.
>> >>Does
>> >> >> >>not
>> >> >> >> > >mean I care any less for who I am married to.... but... 
>>somehow
>> >>it
>> >> >is
>> >> >> >>all
>> >> >> >> > >worth it at the end of the day.
>> >> >> >> > >     Gene E. Bush
>> >> >> >> > >Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
>> >> >> >> > >www.munchkinnursery.com
>> >> >> >> > >genebush@munchkinnursery.com
>> >> >> >> > >Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >----- Original Message ----- > Pam,
>> >> >> >> > >snip...
>> >> >> >> > > > Living alone is not unusual.  Lots of people do.  As long 
>>as
>> >>it
>> >> >> >>works
>> >> >> >> > >for
>> >> >> >> > > > you and you have the network of friends you want and need
>> >> >(including
>> >> >> >> > >Sugar),
>> >> >> >> > > > there is no need to feel odd-man-out.  I've been alone 
>>since
>> >>'89
>> >> >and
>> >> >> >> > >frankly
>> >> >> >> > > > these 14 years have been much better for me than the 
>>previous
>> >>14.
>> >> >I
>> >> >> >> > >don't
>> >> >> >> > > > understand why anyone would give you a hard time for being
>> >>single
>> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >> > > > orientation is nobody's business.
>> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > > > Kitty
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> Kemp TX/zone 8A
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