Re: Hydrange macrophylla 'Bailmer' aka Endless Summer

It's fun to track some of these names.  All of the "zam" names (Malus &
Pyrus) are for Jim Zampini, the main guy at Lake County Nursery.  He is
focusing on Viburnum cultivars lately, e.g. Viburnum plicatum 'Trizam',
marketed as 'Triumph".



----- Original Message -----
From: "Kitty Morrissy" <kmrsy@earthlink.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hydrange macrophylla 'Bailmer' aka Endless Summer


> Ceres,
> Don't know why I didn't notice that, but you are right.  In this case the
> hybridizer and the marketer are one and the same.  They are applying Bail
> to the front of the name of their introductions.  But they also know it
> will market better as Endless Summer.  Most likely the 'mer' in Bailmer is
> from the tail end of the TMd name.
>
> Other examples, botanical, commercial:
> Malus 'Amertrizam', Malus 'American Triumph'
> Malus 'Branzam', Malus 'Brandywine'
> Malus 'Camzam', Malus 'Camelot'
> Malus 'Canterzam', Malus 'Canterbury'
> Malus 'Chrishozam', Malus 'Christmas Holly'
> Malus 'Excazam', Malus 'Excalibur'
> Malus 'Hamzam, Malus 'Hamlet'
> Lots of 'zam's - they go on and on
> Syringa vulgaris 'Monroe' P.P., Syringa vulgaris 'Blue Skies'
> Syzygium paniculatum 'Nanum', Syzygium paniculatum 'Teenie Geenie'
> Taxodium distichum 'Mickelson', Taxodium distichum 'Shawnee Brave'
> Taxus cuspicata 'Monloo' PPAF, Taxus cuspicata 'Emerald Spreader'
> Taxus media 'Ershzam', Taxus media 'Erie Shores' there's the zam people
> again!
> Ternstroemia gymnanthera 'Grewad', Ternstroemia gymnanthera 'Copper Crown'
> Ternstroemia gymnanthera 'Grevan', Ternstroemia gymnanthera 'Jade Tiara'
> Ternstroemia gymnanthera 'Greyou', Ternstroemia gymnanthera 'Sovereign'
> Abelia x grandiflora 'Conti' P.P. 8472, Abelia x grandiflora 'Confetti'
> Acer campestre 'Evelyn' PP4392, Acer campestre 'Queen Elizabeth'
> Acer freemanii 'Celzam' P.P. 7279, Acer freemanii 'Celebration' (Zam!)
> Acer freemanii 'DTR 102' P.P. 7655, Acer freemanii 'Autumn Fantasy'
> Acer ginnala 'Mondy', Acer ginnala 'Red Rhapsody'
> Berberis 'Tara', Berberis 'Emerald Carousel'
>
> Anyway, you get the idea.  I didn't type in all the PP#s (Plant Patent
> Numbers) or PPAFs, and not all of them show that a patent was applied for.
> In some cases like the Berberis, my guess might be that since Tara is a
> nice enough name, perhaps it didn't do as well as expected on a first
> introduction or the name was too close to another, so they gave it another
> name on its next outing.
>
> One last note.  I assumed you were aware of this and didn't want to offend
> you by explaining it.  I think the subject was hinted at once before when
> we talked about the name of  Lilium 'Haley's Comet' being possibly another
> name for L.'Shaherezade".  Also Syringa 'Blue Skies' came up in a
> discussion some time back.  When the marketer stops carrying the TMd name,
> sometimes it is hard to find any trace of the plant you're trying to track
> down.  Can be very difficult unless you know its real name.
>
> Kitty
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <Cersgarden@aol.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Date: 2/6/2003 1:01:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Hydrange macrophylla 'Bailmer' aka Endless Summer
> >
> > In a message dated 2/6/03 1:40:33 PM, kmrsy@earthlink.net writes:
> >
> > << The person or company that introduces a new plant gets to name it. >>
> >
> > Kitty, I did not understand why the difference so I do appreciate your
> > explanation.  I thnk Bailey did develope the plant as I had literature
of
> > other new introducations and they all began with 'bail' assuming that
was
> > taken from Bailey.  Kitty, the bloom heads were huge!
> > Thanks, again.
> >     Ceres
> >
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