Re: Fwd: Price of Gas; Now Duct Tape

i don't know, rich. at least with the paper drives we were putting all the trash in one place and tiring our kids out--both good outcomes. i can't think of any redeeming feature of the plastic/duct tape suggestion except a brief snicker.


At 09:13 AM 2/14/03 -0800, you wrote:
I kind of equate the plastic/duct tape mess with paper drives in the past.
I think if we are busy enough doning something that is time consuming and
just downright stupid we won't be able to focus on any real problems.  Rich
in Z-5
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From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Price of Gas; Now Duct Tape


> Well - and I'll probably offend the other half of the list, David,
> but, being a cynical old bod, who also lives 20 miles as the crow
> flies from the main source of natural gas in the US (i.e. the White
> House/Capitol Hill), IMO all this scare tactic stuff is designed to
> move people into support of policies that are, at best, dubious, and
> which have zero support in the rest of the civilized world.
>
> Terrorism exists.  The rest of the world has lived with it in some
> form or another since W.W.II (or for centuries; even since the
> beginning of recorded civilization).  We have been sheltered in the
> US.  I have no doubt that some other attempts at terrorism will take
> place in this country at some time, despite the Gestapo-like laws
> that are being attached as riders to assorted budget bills (they'd
> never survive open floor debate).
>
> However, this country has a huge land mass.  Even the most organized
> and highly financed terrorist group on the planet could not hit
> everywhere in the entire country at one time....so why put the entire
> population in panic mode - out buying stuff they have no clue how to
> use effectively against some unknown foe who is possibly going to do
> something unknown at an unknown time and place. Maybe it is a subtle
> and twisted way to improve the economy:-)
>
> Even if some group slips past our numerous and costly assorted
> government agencies in charge of security, their goal would be high
> numbers and those are only found in major urban areas, so anybody in
> a small town upwind of a major city has more chance of getting hit by
> a car crossing the street than suffering from a terrorist attack.  In
> fact, even those of us living in areas that present lovely targets
> need to simply get on with life and worry about what we need to worry
> about, which does not include going into panic mode about terrorist
> attacks.  Remember the story about Chicken Little...
>
> Don't get me started on what is happening to our environmental
> protection policies...that really WILL offend the remainder of the
> list:-)
>
> Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> mtalt@hort.net
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> > From: David Franzman <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> >
> > Here, here Marge!  Is this unbelievable or what?  I had to stop
> digging
> > my bomb shelter to add my two cents.  Not to get too heavily into
> > politics and at the risk of offending half the list but  I CAN'T
> BELIEVE
> > HIS POPULARITY KEEPS GOING UP!  He's reversing all of the
> environmental
> > protections since the 70's and his off again on again war talk is
> > destroying our retirement plans.  Frankly, if you ask me the bigger
> > threat is across the Pacific not the Arabian Sea...of course,
> nobody
> > asked me!
>
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