RE: Fwd: Nitrogen application rates

David, I never needed a "doobie."  Nature always was enough of a high.

Blessings,

Bonnie

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of David Franzman
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:56 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates

Oh man Bonnie, I just had this picture of you laying out in a field, looking
up
at the sky, smoking a doobie and chilling with the music.  Sheesh, made me
nostalgic!

DF

Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:

> There is nothing wrong with blue-grass music either.  I love to lay on the
> blue grass and listen to the music of the wind while looking at what
shapes
> the clouds have made in the soft blue sky mid-summer.  (LOL)  O.K., I've
> never REALLY grown up.  (No pun intended.)
>
> Blessings,
>
> Bonnie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
> Of David Franzman
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:29 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>
> Oh man, I love Blue Grass.  I just got an Alison Kraus cd.  She's quite
> talented.
>
> DF
>
> Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
>
> > Andrea, mine is mostly blue grass with some perennial rye in the shadier
> > areas.  Thanks for checking it for me!
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Bonnie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf
> > Of Andrea H
> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:33 AM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >
> > let me know what kind of lawn you have and I can look it up in my trusty
> > 'turf management" book.
> >
> > Andrea H
> > Beaufort, SC
> > Zone 8b
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >
> > > Great info, Cathy!  I imagine that applies to what we put on our lawns
> > after
> > > a fashion, too.
> > >
> > > Blessings,
> > >
> > > Bonnie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of cathy carpenter
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Subject: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> > >
> > > Thought there might be some interest in this information on Nitrogen
> > > application rates from our extension ag educator. It is intended for
> > > farmers, but contains food for thought for us all.
> > > Cathy
> > >
> > > Begin forwarded message:
> > >
> > > > From: Mike Roegge <roeggem@uiuc.edu>
> > > > Date: Fri Feb 07, 2003  01:47:14 PM US/Central
> > > > To: roeggem@uiuc.edu
> > > > Subject: Nitrogen application rates
> > > >
> > > > Weekly Crop Update                  2-7-03
> > > > By Mike Roegge, University of Illinois Extension, Adams/Brown Unit
> > > >
> > > >     Our featured speaker at the recently held No Till Seminar, Dr.
> Fred
> > > > Below, presented his research on nitrogen rates. He looked at N
rates
> > > > over a three-year period in a variety of cropping situations: no
till,
> > > > conventional, C-SB and C-C rotations, on producersm fields and on
> > > > research farms. His objective was to determine the optimal rate of
> > > > nitrogen for plant yield. Not necessarily the economic rate, but the
> > > > rate at which, biologically, the plant quit responding.
> > > >     With over 40 site years of data, his findings were that in no
> > > > circumstances, did the corn crop require any more than 1.2 pounds of
N
> > > > per bushel of yield. For many years, this has been the U of I
> > > > recommendation. And it hasnmt changed.
> > > > Actually, the average requirement was 0.9 pounds of N per bushel of
> > > > yield. The same need was found regardless of environment grown
> (tilled,
> > > > preceding crop, etc.). Interestingly enough, when plotted against
> > > > yield, those fields that yielded the lowest required the highest
> amount
> > > > of N (per bushel). The higher the productivity of the soil, the
lower
> > > > the amount of N needed per bushel of grain.
> > > >     If nothing else, this work proved again, that 1.2 pounds of N
per
> > > > bushel of corn is all that is necessary. There is already some
lfluffn
> > > > built into this recommendation, so making applications of higher
rates
> > > > of N only costs additional dollars and risks higher N losses.
> > > > Of course, make sure when you account for the 1.2 pounds, you
include
> > > > incidental N (starter, DAP, 28%, etc.) and also take the soybean N
> > > > credit if that was your prior crop.
> > > >     We still have approximately 50% of the corn acres to receive
> > > > nitrogen this spring. Many producers still use rates higher than
> > > > recommended as insurance against the year when crop yields go
through
> > > > the roof. They donmt want to get caught short. However, based upon
> this
> > > > research, and on other N research conducted by the U of I, there is
no
> > > > need to lfluffn your N rate. Data from Dr. Bob Hoeft over an 18 year
> > > > time period found similar results. He found that by increasing N
rate
> > > > by 30-40 pounds per acre over the 1.2 pounds actually led to
decreased
> > > > net income.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Roegge             University of Illinois Extension
> > > > 330 S. 36th Street          Adams/Brown Unit
> > > > Quincy, IL 62301            r*@uiuc.edu
> > > > Phone: 217-223-8380         FAX: 217-223-9368
> > >
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