Re: Fwd: Nitrogen application rates

Bonnie, I'm glad you ended that with blessings because as you know I was teasing
you a little.  Hope I didn't cast aspirations on your character.  You know I
would never do that to you.

Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:

> David, I never needed a "doobie."  Nature always was enough of a high.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Bonnie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> Of David Franzman
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:56 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
>
> Oh man Bonnie, I just had this picture of you laying out in a field, looking
> up
> at the sky, smoking a doobie and chilling with the music.  Sheesh, made me
> nostalgic!
>
> DF
>
> Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
>
> > There is nothing wrong with blue-grass music either.  I love to lay on the
> > blue grass and listen to the music of the wind while looking at what
> shapes
> > the clouds have made in the soft blue sky mid-summer.  (LOL)  O.K., I've
> > never REALLY grown up.  (No pun intended.)
> >
> > Blessings,
> >
> > Bonnie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf
> > Of David Franzman
> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:29 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> >
> > Oh man, I love Blue Grass.  I just got an Alison Kraus cd.  She's quite
> > talented.
> >
> > DF
> >
> > Bonnie & Bill Morgan wrote:
> >
> > > Andrea, mine is mostly blue grass with some perennial rye in the shadier
> > > areas.  Thanks for checking it for me!
> > >
> > > Blessings,
> > >
> > > Bonnie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Andrea H
> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:33 AM
> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> > >
> > > let me know what kind of lawn you have and I can look it up in my trusty
> > > 'turf management" book.
> > >
> > > Andrea H
> > > Beaufort, SC
> > > Zone 8b
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan" <wmorgan972@ameritech.net>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:29 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> > >
> > > > Great info, Cathy!  I imagine that applies to what we put on our lawns
> > > after
> > > > a fashion, too.
> > > >
> > > > Blessings,
> > > >
> > > > Bonnie
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of cathy carpenter
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > Subject: [CHAT] Fwd: Nitrogen application rates
> > > >
> > > > Thought there might be some interest in this information on Nitrogen
> > > > application rates from our extension ag educator. It is intended for
> > > > farmers, but contains food for thought for us all.
> > > > Cathy
> > > >
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > >
> > > > > From: Mike Roegge <roeggem@uiuc.edu>
> > > > > Date: Fri Feb 07, 2003  01:47:14 PM US/Central
> > > > > To: roeggem@uiuc.edu
> > > > > Subject: Nitrogen application rates
> > > > >
> > > > > Weekly Crop Update                  2-7-03
> > > > > By Mike Roegge, University of Illinois Extension, Adams/Brown Unit
> > > > >
> > > > >     Our featured speaker at the recently held No Till Seminar, Dr.
> > Fred
> > > > > Below, presented his research on nitrogen rates. He looked at N
> rates
> > > > > over a three-year period in a variety of cropping situations: no
> till,
> > > > > conventional, C-SB and C-C rotations, on producersm fields and on
> > > > > research farms. His objective was to determine the optimal rate of
> > > > > nitrogen for plant yield. Not necessarily the economic rate, but the
> > > > > rate at which, biologically, the plant quit responding.
> > > > >     With over 40 site years of data, his findings were that in no
> > > > > circumstances, did the corn crop require any more than 1.2 pounds of
> N
> > > > > per bushel of yield. For many years, this has been the U of I
> > > > > recommendation. And it hasnmt changed.
> > > > > Actually, the average requirement was 0.9 pounds of N per bushel of
> > > > > yield. The same need was found regardless of environment grown
> > (tilled,
> > > > > preceding crop, etc.). Interestingly enough, when plotted against
> > > > > yield, those fields that yielded the lowest required the highest
> > amount
> > > > > of N (per bushel). The higher the productivity of the soil, the
> lower
> > > > > the amount of N needed per bushel of grain.
> > > > >     If nothing else, this work proved again, that 1.2 pounds of N
> per
> > > > > bushel of corn is all that is necessary. There is already some
> lfluffn
> > > > > built into this recommendation, so making applications of higher
> rates
> > > > > of N only costs additional dollars and risks higher N losses.
> > > > > Of course, make sure when you account for the 1.2 pounds, you
> include
> > > > > incidental N (starter, DAP, 28%, etc.) and also take the soybean N
> > > > > credit if that was your prior crop.
> > > > >     We still have approximately 50% of the corn acres to receive
> > > > > nitrogen this spring. Many producers still use rates higher than
> > > > > recommended as insurance against the year when crop yields go
> through
> > > > > the roof. They donmt want to get caught short. However, based upon
> > this
> > > > > research, and on other N research conducted by the U of I, there is
> no
> > > > > need to lfluffn your N rate. Data from Dr. Bob Hoeft over an 18 year
> > > > > time period found similar results. He found that by increasing N
> rate
> > > > > by 30-40 pounds per acre over the 1.2 pounds actually led to
> decreased
> > > > > net income.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Roegge             University of Illinois Extension
> > > > > 330 S. 36th Street          Adams/Brown Unit
> > > > > Quincy, IL 62301            r*@uiuc.edu
> > > > > Phone: 217-223-8380         FAX: 217-223-9368
> > > >
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