Re: OT-equality, not reversed

That's my buddy! And really, there is nothing WRONG with wanting equality...for men/women, race, religion...you name it. I am offended by churches that do not allow women to be a minister. If you ask ME..which they DON'T...women are very nurturing and would make EXCELLENT ministers. People can be so stupid....it totally amazes me.


Jesse Rene' Bell



From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-equality, not reversed
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:49:34 -0600

Eleanor Roosevelt also said - no one can take advantage of you w/out
your permission. I don't give permission for that. It ended my first
engagement - fine. I demand equality and I get it because I will accept
nothing less. I hear the "b" word more often than I'd like but tough
darts. I am who I am and people just have to deal w/ it or get out of my
way. Obnoxious? Maybe. But I am right and never doubt that so I stick to
my guns, no matter what the cost. My boss calls me tact-free, but he
says it w/ humor and respect. If you don't stand up for your principles,
what are they worth, right??

Ok, will get off my soapbox now...

:-)


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: ECPep@aol.com
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:18:31 EST

>In a message dated 1/28/03 5:54:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>kmrsy@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>> Why don't single people count?>>>>
>
>Kitty, they do. All people count. All. From a "NY bleeding heart liberal"
>Don't let anyone get you down on this issue. Eleanor Roosevelt said, amongst
>her many worthy statements, that you are only lessened to the degree you
>allow it. No-one should presume anything with regard to the life status of
>another.
>
>Upon reading the many comments, think the solutions to life's problems are
>well handled in this category. I married and have spent 40 years spelling my
>name. My husband will say quietly say, I have told you once and that is
>enough and you cannot get another word out of him. Sometimes I need to
>correct a clerk somewhere on why "you people don't change your names." I
>have a mother, aged 94, who uses her own name and always has. If you expect
>dignity to be afforded to you from society, you extend dignity to your fellow
>man.
>
>Funnily, I was raised in a city with such a mixture of people and a wide
>general acceptance of lifestyle that the shock only came upon moving to a
>rural area of New York and finding "country people" much more conservative.
>This attitude is diminishing to the individual and once in while makes you a
>pariah in your own town. In what is not a small way, it does demonstrate a
>wide division in social attitude in this country. It is shame that in this
>new century in the US, women are still struggling for an equal place at the
>table.
>
>
>Claire Peplowski
>NYS z4
>
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Pam Evans
Kemp TX/zone 8A


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