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Re: OT-equality, not reversed

Amen my friend - amen. If people would take all the energy they expend
being petty and small minded and channeled it in a positive direction -
wow what a difference would we see?! Sigh, I can dream....

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Jesse Bell" <jesserenebell@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:23:38 -0600

>That's my buddy!  And really, there is nothing WRONG with wanting 
>equality...for men/women, race, religion...you name it.  I am offended by 
>churches that do not allow women to be a minister.  If you ask ME..which 
>they DON'T...women are very nurturing and would make EXCELLENT ministers.  
>People can be so stupid....it totally amazes me.
>Jesse Rene' Bell
>>From: "Pamela J. Evans" <gardenqueen@gbronline.com>
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>Subject: Re: [CHAT] OT-equality, not reversed
>>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:49:34 -0600
>>Eleanor Roosevelt also said - no one can take advantage of you w/out
>>your permission. I don't give permission for that. It ended my first
>>engagement - fine. I demand equality and I get it because I will accept
>>nothing less. I hear the "b" word more often than I'd like but tough
>>darts. I am who I am and people just have to deal w/ it or get out of my
>>way. Obnoxious? Maybe. But I am right and never doubt that so I stick to
>>my guns, no matter what the cost. My boss calls me tact-free, but he
>>says it w/ humor and respect. If you don't stand up for your principles,
>>what are they worth, right??
>>Ok, will get off my soapbox now...
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: ECPep@aol.com
>>Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>Date:  Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:18:31 EST
>> >In a message dated 1/28/03 5:54:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> >kmrsy@earthlink.net writes:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Why don't single people count?>>>>
>> >
>> >Kitty, they do.  All people count.  All.  From a "NY bleeding heart 
>> >Don't let anyone get you down on this issue.  Eleanor Roosevelt said, 
>> >her many worthy statements, that you are only lessened to the degree you
>> >allow it.  No-one should presume anything with regard to the life status 
>> >another.
>> >
>> >Upon reading the many comments, think the solutions to life's problems 
>> >well handled in this category.  I married and have spent 40 years 
>>spelling my
>> >name.  My husband will say quietly say, I have told you once and that is
>> >enough and you cannot get another word out of him.   Sometimes I need to
>> >correct a clerk somewhere on why "you people don't change your names."  I
>> >have a mother, aged 94, who uses her own name and always has.  If you 
>> >dignity to be afforded to you from society, you extend dignity to your 
>> >man.
>> >
>> >Funnily, I was raised in a city with such a mixture of people and a wide
>> >general acceptance of lifestyle that the shock only came upon moving to a
>> >rural area of New York and finding "country people" much more 
>> >This attitude is diminishing to the individual and once in while makes 
>>you a
>> >pariah in your own town.  In what is not a small way, it does demonstrate 
>> >wide division in social attitude in this country.  It is shame that in 
>> >new century in the US, women are still struggling for an equal place at 
>> >table.
>> >
>> >
>> >Claire Peplowski
>> >NYS z4
>> >
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>>Pam Evans
>>Kemp TX/zone 8A
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