Re: now willow water, wasweather

All my books are packed away right now but if I can find it soon before we
exhaust the topic I'll let you know --
--Barb, California
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna " <justme@prairieinet.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:07 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] now willow water, wasweather


> How long did it have to ferment? Interesting concept.... may have to try
> it.
>
> Donna
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> > Behalf Of Barbara Tandy
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:39 AM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather
> >
> > Yes we learned about "willow water" in one of my landscape hort
> classes.
> >
> > --Barb Tandy, California
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "cathy carpenter" <cathyc@rnet.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather
> >
> >
> > > I seem to recall, that in the days before rooting hormone powder,
> > > people used "willow water" i.e. water in which willow branches had
> been
> > > soaked, as a rooting stimulant.
> > > Cathy
> > > On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 04:11 PM, james singer wrote:
> > >
> > > > It also ought to be available in supermarket flower stalls. It
> roots
> > > > easily in water.
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 11:49 AM, kmrsy@comcast.net
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Fran, you could probably find a puusywillow, Syringa vulgaris (or
> > > >> several other species) locally this spring. If not, I found
> several
> > > >> available at Mellinger's:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> http://snipurl.com/3s05
> > > >>
> > > >> Kitty
> > > >>> Where could I find one?  I really don't remember seeing them in
> any
> > > >>> catalogs I
> > > >>> get.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Fran, OKC
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >>> What about a pussy willow- they love wet feet! And they are so
> much
> > > >>> fun in
> > > >>> spring. And they grow really fast!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Theresa
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> [o*@hort.net]On
> > > >>> Behalf Of Bonnie & Bill Morgan
> > > >>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:58 PM
> > > >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yup. After a 5 year fight to get the front street footage
> cleared of
> > > >>> rock
> > > >>> debris and ruts and get it graded to actually drain to a catch
> basin
> > > >>> was
> > > >>> enough of a monumental fight. When I approached them about the
> yard
> > > >>> boundary problem, they told me to take it up with my neighbors
> for
> > > >>> not
> > > >>> clearing the trees away from the edges of the property. UGH!
> (Keep
> > in
> > > >>> mind; these were the same folks that sank a catch basin 4"
> higher
> > > >>> than the
> > > >>> surrounding area. They can't even figure out that water drains
> down
> > > >>> hill
> > > >>> around here. They put the sewers too close to the surface of the
> > > >>> ground and
> > > >>> forgot how much soil they removed--before the installation--once
> it
> > > >>> was
> > > >>> installed to bring it to the proper height. Of course they deny
> it,
> > > >>> but
> > > >>> there are pictures....) They already know I'm a trouble maker.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I think I'll be better off just waiting until we can afford to
> do
> > > >>> something
> > > >>> with the area or find plants (like cattails) that will thrive in
> the
> > > >>> "river"
> > > >>> in the wet times and go dormant in the dry seasons. I still like
> the
> > > >>> idea
> > > >>> of a little bridge across the boundary, though, and a dry river
> bed.
> > > >>> There
> > > >>> is still so much more to check out!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Blessings,
> > > >>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> [o*@hort.net]
> > > >>> On Behalf
> > > >>> Of Donna
> > > >>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:01 PM
> > > >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That is true Kitty- but proving, getting someone to actually do
> > > >>> something... around here, not worth the time and effort. Easier
> to
> > > >>> just
> > > >>> fix it yourself.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Donna
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> [o*@hort.net]
> > > >>>> On
> > > >>>> Behalf Of Kitty
> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:39 PM
> > > >>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Bonnie,
> > > >>>> You need to get out there and scream at the County/Township.
> They
> > > >>> can't
> > > >>>> "fix" the grade resulting in a detriment to your property. We
> had a
> > > >>>> similar
> > > >>>> situation at my office. We're on a deadend street; commercial
> one
> > > >>> side,
> > > >>>> residential other side. Commercial side has a sort of dip
> carved
> > > >>> between
> > > >>>> two properties so water runs south to the ravine behind our
> > > >>>> buildings.
> > > >>>> The
> > > >>>> residence property across the street always flooded, even
> though
> > > >>>> there
> > > >>> was
> > > >>>> a
> > > >>>> pipe running under the street from their side to ours. So we
> fixed
> > > >>> the
> > > >>>> problem by extending our 'dip' to their pipe to accept the
> water
> > > >>> rather
> > > >>>> than
> > > >>>> cause backflow.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This worked great for a few years, until those people died,
> then
> > new
> > > >>>> people
> > > >>>> trenched the property AND another neighbor's to lead massive
> > amounts
> > > >>> of
> > > >>>> water through to our side, where, the dip wasn't adequate, so
> they
> > > >>> flooded
> > > >>>> us. Finally the city came in, rebuilt the section of street and
> put
> > > >>> in a
> > > >>>> real live drain. Whether it is a private individual, a
> business, or
> > > >>>> a
> > > >>>> govt
> > > >>>> directive, one entity cannot make such physical changes that
> > > >>>> adversely
> > > >>>> impact the existing condition of another entity and not be
> called
> > to
> > > >>>> account
> > > >>>> for their actions.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Kitty
> > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>> From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan"
> > > >>>> To:
> > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:27 PM
> > > >>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I've talked it over with our neighbor and they are all for it,
> but
> > > >>> we'd
> > > >>>>> share costs. With our job situation and their job situation,
> there
> > > >>> just
> > > >>>>> aren't any funds right now. If we are blessed in the future,
> you
> > > >>> can
> > > >>>> bet
> > > >>>>> that is one of the first things we do! We even thought of
> putting
> > a
> > > >>>> small
> > > >>>>> bridge over the area so we can still visit in spring and fall
> > > >>> without
> > > >>>>> sinking knee deep in mud or water. We've had it re-graded
> three
> > > >>> times
> > > >>>> on
> > > >>>>> our dime already to "fix" the problem with absolutely no
> success.
> > > >>> If
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>> road bed were not raised above our property level (which used
> to
> > be
> > > >>>> below
> > > >>>>> our grade,) the water would simply run off across the street
> and
> > > >>> into
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>> little creek behind the houses across the street. The township
> > > >>> decided
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>>> "fix" the grade when they put in sewers. UGH! Of such is life.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Blessings,
> > > >>>>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> [o*@hort.net]
> > > >>> On
> > > >>>> Behalf
> > > >>>>> Of Bonnie Holmes
> > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:37 PM
> > > >>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I recall a lovely "dry stream" bed featured in a gardening
> > magazine
> > > >>>> (I'll
> > > >>>>> look it up if you're interested) to take care of flash
> flooding
> > > >>> between
> > > >>>> two
> > > >>>>> property lines.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> [Original Message]
> > > >>>>>> From: Bonnie & Bill Morgan
> > > >>>>>> To:
> > > >>>>>> Date: 01/03/2004 10:03:00 AM
> > > >>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I guess that means more rain is on its way here, huh, Donna?
> > > >>> We've
> > > >>>> got
> > > >>>>>> flood warnings and our gutters haven't been able to keep up
> with
> > > >>> the
> > > >>>>> deluge.
> > > >>>>>> There is a small "river" between property lines, the low
> areas
> > are
> > > >>>>>> overflowing and even the walkway to the porch has 1/2 thick
> water
> > > >>>> pouring
> > > >>>>>> over it. We haven't gotten to the point of a rain like the
> 100
> > > >>> years
> > > >>>>> flood
> > > >>>>>> levels for the area, but it can't be too far off with the
> ground
> > > >>>> already
> > > >>>>> at
> > > >>>>>> saturation. And we will be in the Mid 60's today! UGH!!! It
> > > >>> should
> > > >>>> be
> > > >>>>>> colder tomorrow, but not freezing until Monday. We'll see.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I'm not sure what water saturated earth will do to the
> dormant
> > > >>> plants
> > > >>>> and
> > > >>>>>> those that have broken dormancy because of this warm spell.
> > > >>> Anybody
> > > >>>> out
> > > >>>>>> there know?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Blessings,
> > > >>>>>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-
> > gardenchat@hort.net]
> > > >>> On
> > > >>>>> Behalf
> > > >>>>>> Of Donna
> > > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:31 PM
> > > >>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > >>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> You take care of your self Judy.. the flu that is around here
> is
> > a
> > > >>>> .....
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Currently raining here... a tad earlier it was pouring and I
> kept
> > > >>>>>> thinking it is gonna start thundering in a minute... glad it
> was
> > > >>> rain
> > > >>>>>> and not snow... or I would be shoveling instead of typing...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Donna
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Happy New Year!
> > > >>>>>>> It snowed Monday & Tuesday & didn't all melt. Snowing again
> > > >>> today so
> > > >>>>>> we
> > > >>>>>>> may
> > > >>>>>>> be having our 2 weeks with snow now. Winter blooming
> heathers
> > > >>> were
> > > >>>> in
> > > >>>>>>> bloom
> > > >>>>>>> the week before Christmas, so I will look for them again as
> soon
> > > >>> as
> > > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>> white stuff melts. I've had a lovely week off. Supposed to
> work
> > > >>>> today,
> > > >>>>>> but
> > > >>>>>>> have called in sick. Icky flu or some such. So, I'm taking
> it
> > > >>> easy,
> > > >>>>>>> watching the parade on HGTV. Also feeling guilty that
> someone
> > > >>> else
> > > >>>> has
> > > >>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>> work for me. Stay healthy.
> > > >>>>>>> Judy B
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
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