RE: now willow water, wasweather

Well if you ever find it, I would like to hear about it, on or off list
:)

Donna


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of Barbara Tandy
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:16 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] now willow water, wasweather
> 
> All my books are packed away right now but if I can find it soon
before we
> exhaust the topic I'll let you know --
> --Barb, California
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna " <justme@prairieinet.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] now willow water, wasweather
> 
> 
> > How long did it have to ferment? Interesting concept.... may have to
try
> > it.
> >
> > Donna
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
On
> > > Behalf Of Barbara Tandy
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:39 AM
> > > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather
> > >
> > > Yes we learned about "willow water" in one of my landscape hort
> > classes.
> > >
> > > --Barb Tandy, California
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "cathy carpenter" <cathyc@rnet.com>
> > > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:27 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather
> > >
> > >
> > > > I seem to recall, that in the days before rooting hormone
powder,
> > > > people used "willow water" i.e. water in which willow branches
had
> > been
> > > > soaked, as a rooting stimulant.
> > > > Cathy
> > > > On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 04:11 PM, james singer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It also ought to be available in supermarket flower stalls. It
> > roots
> > > > > easily in water.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 11:49 AM, kmrsy@comcast.net
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Fran, you could probably find a puusywillow, Syringa vulgaris
(or
> > > > >> several other species) locally this spring. If not, I found
> > several
> > > > >> available at Mellinger's:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://snipurl.com/3s05
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Kitty
> > > > >>> Where could I find one?  I really don't remember seeing them
in
> > any
> > > > >>> catalogs I
> > > > >>> get.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Fran, OKC
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > >>> What about a pussy willow- they love wet feet! And they are
so
> > much
> > > > >>> fun in
> > > > >>> spring. And they grow really fast!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Theresa
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> > [o*@hort.net]On
> > > > >>> Behalf Of Bonnie & Bill Morgan
> > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:58 PM
> > > > >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > >>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Yup. After a 5 year fight to get the front street footage
> > cleared of
> > > > >>> rock
> > > > >>> debris and ruts and get it graded to actually drain to a
catch
> > basin
> > > > >>> was
> > > > >>> enough of a monumental fight. When I approached them about
the
> > yard
> > > > >>> boundary problem, they told me to take it up with my
neighbors
> > for
> > > > >>> not
> > > > >>> clearing the trees away from the edges of the property. UGH!
> > (Keep
> > > in
> > > > >>> mind; these were the same folks that sank a catch basin 4"
> > higher
> > > > >>> than the
> > > > >>> surrounding area. They can't even figure out that water
drains
> > down
> > > > >>> hill
> > > > >>> around here. They put the sewers too close to the surface of
the
> > > > >>> ground and
> > > > >>> forgot how much soil they removed--before the
installation--once
> > it
> > > > >>> was
> > > > >>> installed to bring it to the proper height. Of course they
deny
> > it,
> > > > >>> but
> > > > >>> there are pictures....) They already know I'm a trouble
maker.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I think I'll be better off just waiting until we can afford
to
> > do
> > > > >>> something
> > > > >>> with the area or find plants (like cattails) that will
thrive in
> > the
> > > > >>> "river"
> > > > >>> in the wet times and go dormant in the dry seasons. I still
like
> > the
> > > > >>> idea
> > > > >>> of a little bridge across the boundary, though, and a dry
river
> > bed.
> > > > >>> There
> > > > >>> is still so much more to check out!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Blessings,
> > > > >>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> > [o*@hort.net]
> > > > >>> On Behalf
> > > > >>> Of Donna
> > > > >>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:01 PM
> > > > >>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > >>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> That is true Kitty- but proving, getting someone to actually
do
> > > > >>> something... around here, not worth the time and effort.
Easier
> > to
> > > > >>> just
> > > > >>> fix it yourself.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Donna
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> > [o*@hort.net]
> > > > >>>> On
> > > > >>>> Behalf Of Kitty
> > > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:39 PM
> > > > >>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Bonnie,
> > > > >>>> You need to get out there and scream at the
County/Township.
> > They
> > > > >>> can't
> > > > >>>> "fix" the grade resulting in a detriment to your property.
We
> > had a
> > > > >>>> similar
> > > > >>>> situation at my office. We're on a deadend street;
commercial
> > one
> > > > >>> side,
> > > > >>>> residential other side. Commercial side has a sort of dip
> > carved
> > > > >>> between
> > > > >>>> two properties so water runs south to the ravine behind our
> > > > >>>> buildings.
> > > > >>>> The
> > > > >>>> residence property across the street always flooded, even
> > though
> > > > >>>> there
> > > > >>> was
> > > > >>>> a
> > > > >>>> pipe running under the street from their side to ours. So
we
> > fixed
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>>> problem by extending our 'dip' to their pipe to accept the
> > water
> > > > >>> rather
> > > > >>>> than
> > > > >>>> cause backflow.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> This worked great for a few years, until those people died,
> > then
> > > new
> > > > >>>> people
> > > > >>>> trenched the property AND another neighbor's to lead
massive
> > > amounts
> > > > >>> of
> > > > >>>> water through to our side, where, the dip wasn't adequate,
so
> > they
> > > > >>> flooded
> > > > >>>> us. Finally the city came in, rebuilt the section of street
and
> > put
> > > > >>> in a
> > > > >>>> real live drain. Whether it is a private individual, a
> > business, or
> > > > >>>> a
> > > > >>>> govt
> > > > >>>> directive, one entity cannot make such physical changes
that
> > > > >>>> adversely
> > > > >>>> impact the existing condition of another entity and not be
> > called
> > > to
> > > > >>>> account
> > > > >>>> for their actions.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Kitty
> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>> From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan"
> > > > >>>> To:
> > > > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:27 PM
> > > > >>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> I've talked it over with our neighbor and they are all for
it,
> > but
> > > > >>> we'd
> > > > >>>>> share costs. With our job situation and their job
situation,
> > there
> > > > >>> just
> > > > >>>>> aren't any funds right now. If we are blessed in the
future,
> > you
> > > > >>> can
> > > > >>>> bet
> > > > >>>>> that is one of the first things we do! We even thought of
> > putting
> > > a
> > > > >>>> small
> > > > >>>>> bridge over the area so we can still visit in spring and
fall
> > > > >>> without
> > > > >>>>> sinking knee deep in mud or water. We've had it re-graded
> > three
> > > > >>> times
> > > > >>>> on
> > > > >>>>> our dime already to "fix" the problem with absolutely no
> > success.
> > > > >>> If
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>>> road bed were not raised above our property level (which
used
> > to
> > > be
> > > > >>>> below
> > > > >>>>> our grade,) the water would simply run off across the
street
> > and
> > > > >>> into
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>>> little creek behind the houses across the street. The
township
> > > > >>> decided
> > > > >>>> to
> > > > >>>>> "fix" the grade when they put in sewers. UGH! Of such is
life.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Blessings,
> > > > >>>>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> > [o*@hort.net]
> > > > >>> On
> > > > >>>> Behalf
> > > > >>>>> Of Bonnie Holmes
> > > > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:37 PM
> > > > >>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > >>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I recall a lovely "dry stream" bed featured in a gardening
> > > magazine
> > > > >>>> (I'll
> > > > >>>>> look it up if you're interested) to take care of flash
> > flooding
> > > > >>> between
> > > > >>>> two
> > > > >>>>> property lines.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> [Original Message]
> > > > >>>>>> From: Bonnie & Bill Morgan
> > > > >>>>>> To:
> > > > >>>>>> Date: 01/03/2004 10:03:00 AM
> > > > >>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I guess that means more rain is on its way here, huh,
Donna?
> > > > >>> We've
> > > > >>>> got
> > > > >>>>>> flood warnings and our gutters haven't been able to keep
up
> > with
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>>>> deluge.
> > > > >>>>>> There is a small "river" between property lines, the low
> > areas
> > > are
> > > > >>>>>> overflowing and even the walkway to the porch has 1/2
thick
> > water
> > > > >>>> pouring
> > > > >>>>>> over it. We haven't gotten to the point of a rain like
the
> > 100
> > > > >>> years
> > > > >>>>> flood
> > > > >>>>>> levels for the area, but it can't be too far off with the
> > ground
> > > > >>>> already
> > > > >>>>> at
> > > > >>>>>> saturation. And we will be in the Mid 60's today! UGH!!!
It
> > > > >>> should
> > > > >>>> be
> > > > >>>>>> colder tomorrow, but not freezing until Monday. We'll
see.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I'm not sure what water saturated earth will do to the
> > dormant
> > > > >>> plants
> > > > >>>> and
> > > > >>>>>> those that have broken dormancy because of this warm
spell.
> > > > >>> Anybody
> > > > >>>> out
> > > > >>>>>> there know?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Blessings,
> > > > >>>>>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [mailto:owner-
> > > gardenchat@hort.net]
> > > > >>> On
> > > > >>>>> Behalf
> > > > >>>>>> Of Donna
> > > > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:31 PM
> > > > >>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > > > >>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> You take care of your self Judy.. the flu that is around
here
> > is
> > > a
> > > > >>>> .....
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Currently raining here... a tad earlier it was pouring
and I
> > kept
> > > > >>>>>> thinking it is gonna start thundering in a minute... glad
it
> > was
> > > > >>> rain
> > > > >>>>>> and not snow... or I would be shoveling instead of
typing...
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Donna
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Happy New Year!
> > > > >>>>>>> It snowed Monday & Tuesday & didn't all melt. Snowing
again
> > > > >>> today so
> > > > >>>>>> we
> > > > >>>>>>> may
> > > > >>>>>>> be having our 2 weeks with snow now. Winter blooming
> > heathers
> > > > >>> were
> > > > >>>> in
> > > > >>>>>>> bloom
> > > > >>>>>>> the week before Christmas, so I will look for them again
as
> > soon
> > > > >>> as
> > > > >>>>>> the
> > > > >>>>>>> white stuff melts. I've had a lovely week off. Supposed
to
> > work
> > > > >>>> today,
> > > > >>>>>> but
> > > > >>>>>>> have called in sick. Icky flu or some such. So, I'm
taking
> > it
> > > > >>> easy,
> > > > >>>>>>> watching the parade on HGTV. Also feeling guilty that
> > someone
> > > > >>> else
> > > > >>>> has
> > > > >>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>> work for me. Stay healthy.
> > > > >>>>>>> Judy B
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>
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