RE: willows

Hum... now that sounds interesting..... What does he do- train them by
wrapping with something to hold in place as they grow?

Donna


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of james singer
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:08 PM
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] willows
> 
> Probably. The guy who fetches palms from the other side of the state
> for us also makes "artifacts" of ficus saplings--way beyond the common
> place braiding of trunks. He makes some truly weird stuff--bird cages,
> shelves for potted plants, and other wonders--all of living ficus
trees.
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 12:00 PM, kmrsy@comcast.net wrote:
> .
> > I wonder.......as flexible as willow is, it is sometimes used for
> > making
> > natural benches, etc.....I wonder if it's possible to build a living
> > bench?
> >
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> >> Yes we learned about "willow water" in one of my landscape hort
> >> classes.
> >>
> >> --Barb Tandy, California
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "cathy carpenter" <cathyc@rnet.com>
> >> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:27 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather
> >>
> >>
> >>> I seem to recall, that in the days before rooting hormone powder,
> >>> people used "willow water" i.e. water in which willow branches had
> >>> been
> >>> soaked, as a rooting stimulant.
> >>> Cathy
> >>> On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 04:11 PM, james singer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It also ought to be available in supermarket flower stalls. It
roots
> >>>> easily in water.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 11:49 AM, kmrsy@comcast.net
wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Fran, you could probably find a puusywillow, Syringa vulgaris
(or
> >>>>> several other species) locally this spring. If not, I found
several
> >>>>> available at Mellinger's:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://snipurl.com/3s05
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>> Where could I find one?  I really don't remember seeing them in
> >>>>>> any
> >>>>>> catalogs I
> >>>>>> get.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Fran, OKC
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> What about a pussy willow- they love wet feet! And they are so
> >>>>>> much
> >>>>>> fun in
> >>>>>> spring. And they grow really fast!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Theresa
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>> [o*@hort.net]On
> >>>>>> Behalf Of Bonnie & Bill Morgan
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:58 PM
> >>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yup. After a 5 year fight to get the front street footage
cleared
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> rock
> >>>>>> debris and ruts and get it graded to actually drain to a catch
> >>>>>> basin
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>> enough of a monumental fight. When I approached them about the
> >>>>>> yard
> >>>>>> boundary problem, they told me to take it up with my neighbors
for
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>> clearing the trees away from the edges of the property. UGH!
> >>>>>> (Keep in
> >>>>>> mind; these were the same folks that sank a catch basin 4"
higher
> >>>>>> than the
> >>>>>> surrounding area. They can't even figure out that water drains
> >>>>>> down
> >>>>>> hill
> >>>>>> around here. They put the sewers too close to the surface of
the
> >>>>>> ground and
> >>>>>> forgot how much soil they removed--before the
installation--once
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>> installed to bring it to the proper height. Of course they deny
> >>>>>> it,
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> there are pictures....) They already know I'm a trouble maker.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think I'll be better off just waiting until we can afford to
do
> >>>>>> something
> >>>>>> with the area or find plants (like cattails) that will thrive
in
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> "river"
> >>>>>> in the wet times and go dormant in the dry seasons. I still
like
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> idea
> >>>>>> of a little bridge across the boundary, though, and a dry river
> >>>>>> bed.
> >>>>>> There
> >>>>>> is still so much more to check out!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Blessings,
> >>>>>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
[o*@hort.net]
> >>>>>> On Behalf
> >>>>>> Of Donna
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:01 PM
> >>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That is true Kitty- but proving, getting someone to actually do
> >>>>>> something... around here, not worth the time and effort. Easier
to
> >>>>>> just
> >>>>>> fix it yourself.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Donna
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>> [o*@hort.net]
> >>>>>>> On
> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Kitty
> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:39 PM
> >>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] weather
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bonnie,
> >>>>>>> You need to get out there and scream at the County/Township.
They
> >>>>>> can't
> >>>>>>> "fix" the grade resulting in a detriment to your property. We
> >>>>>>> had a
> >>>>>>> similar
> >>>>>>> situation at my office. We're on a deadend street; commercial
one
> >>>>>> side,
> >>>>>>> residential other side. Commercial side has a sort of dip
carved
> >>>>>> between
> >>>>>>> two properties so water runs south to the ravine behind our
> >>>>>>> buildings.
> >>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>> residence property across the street always flooded, even
though
> >>>>>>> there
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> pipe running under the street from their side to ours. So we
> >>>>>>> fixed
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> problem by extending our 'dip' to their pipe to accept the
water
> >>>>>> rather
> >>>>>>> than
> >>>>>>> cause backflow.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This worked great for a few years, until those people died,
then
> >>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>> trenched the property AND another neighbor's to lead massive
> >>>>>>> amounts
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> water through to our side, where, the dip wasn't adequate, so
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>> flooded
> >>>>>>> us. Finally the city came in, rebuilt the section of street
and
> >>>>>>> put
> >>>>>> in a
> >>>>>>> real live drain. Whether it is a private individual, a
business,
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>> govt
> >>>>>>> directive, one entity cannot make such physical changes that
> >>>>>>> adversely
> >>>>>>> impact the existing condition of another entity and not be
> >>>>>>> called to
> >>>>>>> account
> >>>>>>> for their actions.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kitty
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Bonnie & Bill Morgan"
> >>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:27 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've talked it over with our neighbor and they are all for
it,
> >>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>> we'd
> >>>>>>>> share costs. With our job situation and their job situation,
> >>>>>>>> there
> >>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>> aren't any funds right now. If we are blessed in the future,
you
> >>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> bet
> >>>>>>>> that is one of the first things we do! We even thought of
> >>>>>>>> putting a
> >>>>>>> small
> >>>>>>>> bridge over the area so we can still visit in spring and fall
> >>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>> sinking knee deep in mud or water. We've had it re-graded
three
> >>>>>> times
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>> our dime already to "fix" the problem with absolutely no
> >>>>>>>> success.
> >>>>>> If
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> road bed were not raised above our property level (which used
> >>>>>>>> to be
> >>>>>>> below
> >>>>>>>> our grade,) the water would simply run off across the street
and
> >>>>>> into
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> little creek behind the houses across the street. The
township
> >>>>>> decided
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> "fix" the grade when they put in sewers. UGH! Of such is
life.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Blessings,
> >>>>>>>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>>> [o*@hort.net]
> >>>>>> On
> >>>>>>> Behalf
> >>>>>>>> Of Bonnie Holmes
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:37 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I recall a lovely "dry stream" bed featured in a gardening
> >>>>>>>> magazine
> >>>>>>> (I'll
> >>>>>>>> look it up if you're interested) to take care of flash
flooding
> >>>>>> between
> >>>>>>> two
> >>>>>>>> property lines.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bonnie Zone 6+ ETN
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> [Original Message]
> >>>>>>>>> From: Bonnie & Bill Morgan
> >>>>>>>>> To:
> >>>>>>>>> Date: 01/03/2004 10:03:00 AM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I guess that means more rain is on its way here, huh, Donna?
> >>>>>> We've
> >>>>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>> flood warnings and our gutters haven't been able to keep up
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> deluge.
> >>>>>>>>> There is a small "river" between property lines, the low
areas
> >>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>> overflowing and even the walkway to the porch has 1/2 thick
> >>>>>>>>> water
> >>>>>>> pouring
> >>>>>>>>> over it. We haven't gotten to the point of a rain like the
100
> >>>>>> years
> >>>>>>>> flood
> >>>>>>>>> levels for the area, but it can't be too far off with the
> >>>>>>>>> ground
> >>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>> saturation. And we will be in the Mid 60's today! UGH!!! It
> >>>>>> should
> >>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>> colder tomorrow, but not freezing until Monday. We'll see.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what water saturated earth will do to the
dormant
> >>>>>> plants
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> those that have broken dormancy because of this warm spell.
> >>>>>> Anybody
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>> there know?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Blessings,
> >>>>>>>>> Bonnie (SW OH - zone 5)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>>>> [o*@hort.net]
> >>>>>> On
> >>>>>>>> Behalf
> >>>>>>>>> Of Donna
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:31 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] weather
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You take care of your self Judy.. the flu that is around
here
> >>>>>>>>> is a
> >>>>>>> .....
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Currently raining here... a tad earlier it was pouring and I
> >>>>>>>>> kept
> >>>>>>>>> thinking it is gonna start thundering in a minute... glad it
> >>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>> rain
> >>>>>>>>> and not snow... or I would be shoveling instead of typing...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Donna
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Happy New Year!
> >>>>>>>>>> It snowed Monday & Tuesday & didn't all melt. Snowing again
> >>>>>> today so
> >>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> may
> >>>>>>>>>> be having our 2 weeks with snow now. Winter blooming
heathers
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> bloom
> >>>>>>>>>> the week before Christmas, so I will look for them again as
> >>>>>>>>>> soon
> >>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> white stuff melts. I've had a lovely week off. Supposed to
> >>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>> today,
> >>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>> have called in sick. Icky flu or some such. So, I'm taking
it
> >>>>>> easy,
> >>>>>>>>>> watching the parade on HGTV. Also feeling guilty that
someone
> >>>>>> else
> >>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> work for me. Stay healthy.
> >>>>>>>>>> Judy B
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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