RE: update on garden/bottle brush

Donna - what about one of the mahonias? They're picky as h____! That
would deter intruders. I have one (the leatherleaf) between me and that
white trash auction!


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Donna " <justme@prairieinet.net>
Reply-To: gardenchat@hort.net
Date:  Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:44:19 -0600

>They seem to list this plant as a zone 6, so would need something
>hardier. I had thought of a climbing rose bush to cover the fence, but
>my soil is just not right for them. Only one of the original rose's
>(other than the flower carpets) survived here. It is in the totally
>wrong place, always wet, heavy clay soil, but it just loves it. Blooms
>it heart out, and is thriving. It is also a no-name cheap one... go
>figure.
>
>Donna
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
>> Behalf Of Theresa
>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 6:26 PM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] update on garden/bottle brush
>> 
>> Donna-  You need something with thorns to keep the kids from jumping
>your
>> fence.  This is precisely why I got the yellow-berried pyracantha a
>couple
>> of years ago- but for me- I wanted to keep the neighborhood cats from
>> climbing the fence.  It is now tall enought to start over the edge of
>the
>> fence, which it what i want- that cats pathway to the bird feeder is
>now
>> blocked by some pretty nasty thorns.
>> 
>> Theresa
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>> Behalf Of Donna
>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:18 AM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] update on garden/bottle brush
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Marge- your right, I never could visualize that! Maybe a path
>> would work.
>> 
>> My goals are that I am also trying to stop the view from neighbors
>> bedroom 2nd floor window to the window by the birdbath. Don't know why
>> they never pull their shade down, and I keep mine open for the cat,
>> although now I pull it down half way to avoid the view. I also would
>> like the birds to be attracted there, so tigger has something to
>watch.
>> 
>> I am also trying to avoid folks from the street being able to see the
>> pond waterfall. (I realize that you can't see that from the picture
>> sent, it was behind me) Kids are forever wandering over and trying to
>> climb the fence to get a better look, of course, jumping right into
>that
>> perennial bed:( I figure if they can't see it, maybe..... I also can't
>> stand the look of the chain link fence either. The wood fence is my
>> previous neighbors who I allowed to hook into mine. I don't have an
>> issue with how that looks. Couldn't afford a wood fence at the time,
>so
>> opted for that to contain the pond and dog. I envisioned covering it
>> with different kinds of vines, but due to the amount of sun here,
>seems
>> to bake them all when small and not getting too far on that plan....
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]
>On
>> > Behalf Of Marge Talt
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:44 AM
>> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] update on garden/bottle brush
>> >
>> > Well, Donna, here's a really rough sketch as a picture is worth a
>> > thousand words:-)
>> >
>> > http://www.mtalt.hort.net/temp-a/sketch.gif
>> >
>> > Figured it would be easier to draw than explain...but idea is to
>> > extend the bed you already have on the other side of the chain link
>> > fence in a curve, so it looks like it just continues through the
>> > fence.  Put in a bed at the street corner of the house that bells
>> > out; plant some taller, wider shrubs and/or shrubs and a small tree
>> > so they would actually hide most of that area from the street,
>> > creating a bit of a secret garden from that side.  Put in a path to
>> > the electric meter and turn the grass into groundcover as it would
>be
>> > hard to mow in there.  Path would actually take up most of the space
>> > between the beds; realize this sketch is at no scale:-)  Hope it
>> > makes sense.
>> >
>> > At the end of the extended bed, where it hits the wood fence, put in
>> > some narrow columnar shrubs or grow some vines up the fence.  Dunno
>> > if you're trying to hide the fence, neighbor's yard or not.  If not,
>> > you could just use some taller perennials there and let that fence
>be
>> > their background.
>> >
>> > I'd be inclined to plant a tall columnar something up against the
>> > chain link fence between the meter and the existing garden so you
>> > don't see the meter from where you took the photo.  That item would
>> > start the new extended bed on the house side.  I just thought of
>that
>> > and didn't put it in the sketch.
>> >
>> > So, that's my suggestion, FWIW:-)
>> >
>> > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
>> > mtalt@hort.net
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>> >
>> > ----------
>> > > From: Donna  <justme@prairieinet.net>
>> > > A picture is worth a thousand words... so :)
>> > >
>> > > http://illianagardenpond.org/southside.jpg
>> > >
>> > > This was taken from inside the yard looking to the street. Need
>> > > something from the fence to front of home. I may be mistaken about
>> > 16
>> > > ft, but I thought that was what I measured a few years ago and
>> > somehow
>> > > stuck in my head. I know the 53 ft is right cause I just got done
>> > buying
>> > > flooring for my basement :)
>> > >
>> > > My neighbor is not into gardening as the small bed (barely visible
>> > > against the garage)was put in by previous owners. I was not
>> > planning on
>> > > adding anything to their side of that space. At one time had
>> > thought
>> > > about a mini-wildflower prairie, but DH assured me someone would
>> > end up
>> > > mowing it down.
>> > >
>> > > Sounds interesting Judy, but not sure I have enough room. I also
>> > still
>> > > have to make it accessible to the meter reading folks.
>> > >
>> > > I just need to get started and it would probably fall into place,
>> > or
>> > > everything get moved at later date. I am forever digging something
>> > up
>> > > and moving it anyways.... due to not liking the combo or plant not
>> > > liking the area....
>> > >
>> > > Donna
>> >
>> >
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