Re: New Lowe's

Gene,
I feel your pain.... ;+)

The average consumer may not understand rootball sizes in relation to
certain plants.  But it's just not smart to put tiny plants into big
containers for all sorts of reasons.
> Maybe they will mature just fine.. or better.. in a pint
> container... so why use the space, medium, larger pots when a smaller one
> will do??
I know it's possible to kill a plant with a small root system if it's  in
too big of a  pot of soil.  I understand that a 4 inch pot of Glaucidium
costs more than a 2 gallon Rudbeckia.  But you can't spend all day
explaining all this to your customers.

>..... no one wants to look at the
> "read this before ordering section".
Those are the pages I look for online or in a catalog.  They hold all the
answers - and maybe some secrets!

Jim wrote > "Florida has plant "grades" that are size-species related."
I have seen a similar system in Greer's catalogue, mostly used for trees.
It's helpful.  Plants are natural things and cannot always conform to sizes
dictated by some board.  I have plants like Coreopsis tripteris that I
prefer to plant in bulb pans or old hanging baskets because they have wide,
shallow roots.  Putting them in a standardized nursery container would
require wasted soil in the deeper pot just to get the desired width.

Kitty



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Bush" <genebush@otherside.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] New Lowe's


> Hello Kitty,
>     The reason for the original lawsuit I would guess was a situation
> similar to yours here. Someone was trying to determine what they were
> getting for their money.
>     I quit dealing with a wholesaler who actually made delivery by truck
to
> my nursery. Wonderful convenience.... but  I was purchasing 5 pint size
and
> getting a plug in the middle of a sea of soil..... I can do that cheaper
> here on my own. I was supposed to be purchasing plants ready for display
and
> sale.
> There are times when size of container and the plant inside the container
do
> not always match up... we think it will, but sometimes it does not. Plants
> are live.. hopefully when you purchase them... and not widgets coming off
an
> assembly line. There will always be variation in size.
>     Sometimes plants are simply small in size and do not need a large
> container. Maybe they will mature just fine.. or better.. in a pint
> container... so why use the space, medium, larger pots when a smaller one
> will do?? Because customers will not pay more for a pint than a gallon no
> matter what is in the container.
>     I have container size listed at the top of the plant listing on my web
> site... get questions on plant size shipped, so now I am trying to include
> it in every description.. takes up space on the site and in the hard copy
> catalog... more expense for everyone, but ..... no one wants to look at
the
> "read this before ordering section".
> Humans do have a hard time communicating.... try being on this end of the
> business for a while is you do not believe me. Everything I write is
> interrupted 40 different ways than what I wrote... that I never would have
> thought of....
>     Gene E. Bush
> Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
> www.munchkinnursery.com
> genebush@munchkinnursery.com
> Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> > Gene, I do have some actual 4 inch pots - actual in my estimation as
they
> > measure a full 4 inches square inside at the top, but then taper a bit
to
> > the bottom where it's probably 3.5 in square; depth is about 4 inches.
> > (hmmmm maybe they were sold as 5 inch?) 4 inch rounds were always
supposed
> > to be 4 inch diameter but some I have aren't barely 3 in diameter, but
> > maybe
> > 4 in deep.  It's all a crapshoot and only makes a difference to me when
I
> > place an order so I have some idea of what I'm getting.
> >
> > I have ordered plants listed in catalogues as coming "from gallons".
They
> > are taken from the pot, some soil removed and wrapped.  Saves on
shipping
> > and is fine by me.  They always appear to have been growing in the
gallon
> > for some time.  But last year I purchased from someone new to me and
their
> > "from gallon"  was a 2 or 3 inch size that would be grown on in a
gallon.
> > I
> > think that is deceptive as it is not what I have received from reputable
> > nurseries in various parts of the US listed that way.  They should have
> > been
> > listed "TO gallon" if they wanted to use the 'gallon' word.
> >
> > Catalogues, paper and online, should be upfront with their sizing.  I
have
> > gone through several without being able to tell if the plants are 2
inch,
> > gallon or even bareroot.  I resent having to call and ask because I
cannot
> > find the info.  ("Oh, sorry, it's those bottom 2 lines on page 18"-
> > really,
> > someone told me that!)  I am not concerned about the difference between
> > 3.5
> > inch and 4 inch or trade gallon and gallon.  But you have to tell me
> > something.
> >
> > On site purchases are different.  Listed size shouldn't matter.
WYSIWYG.
> > Even a blind person can feel the size of the container.
> > The customers can look at it and determine for themselves if it is worth
> > the
> > price.
> >
> > Kitty
>
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