Re: More pet product recall
gardenchat@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: More pet product recall
  • From: P* E* <g*@gmail.com>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:08:47 -0500
boy that was a nervy vole huh??   brotherrrrr.....

On 7/5/10, Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> When a recipe calls for a tablespoon of chicken fat, I thought it would
> need to be liquid or something - in order to mix in.  Wasn't sure how to go
> about that.
>
> The reason the vet wanted z/d for him is that it rules out virtually
> everything.  If we get him to a point that he's not having fits, we can then
> add in one item at a time to see what he can tolerate.
>
> And just now, as I was weeding, a VOLE JUST SAUNTERED BY A FOOT AWAY FROM
> ME, without so much as a by your leave, g'day m'am! The gall!
>
> Kitty
> neIN, Zone 5
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl" <dp2413@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:18 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] More pet product recall
>
>
> Kitty,
>>
>> I don't know anybody who buys the other stuff. They just feed real food.
>> Like boiled chicken, eggs, vegetables and brown rice mixed together. Most
>> add cottage cheese or yogurt, but your boy can't have dairy (or is it just
>> milk? a lot of cats can't handle milk but can handle cheese and yogurt).
>> Calcium supplements are available, but some just add back some of the
>> water
>> from boiling an egg, or whiz the cooked eggshells in the blender until
>> they're powdered.
>>
>> Buy chicken fat? Buy chicken. It comes with the fat. ;-)
>>
>> d
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] More pet product recall
>>
>>
>> YOu've got me interested.  But where does one buy some of these
>>> ingredients like chicken fat and powdered eggshell?
>>>
>>> On the other hand...
>>> while searching for recipes I found
>>>
>>>                       Natural Balance L.I.D. Allergy Formula Dry Cat Food
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Natural-Balance-LID-Allergy-Formula-Dry-Cat-Food/158185.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>                 at less than half the price of z/d.  I don't know why I
>>> didn't find it before.  Perhaps the search paarameters I used were
>>> different.  No fish, corn, or dairy in the ingredients list of 2 of their
>>> formulas.  My understanding of the z/d cost is that the ingredients are
>>> highly refined, repeatedly processed to reduce allergic reaction.  But I
>>> might give this a try after we go through 10# of z/d.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kitty
>>> neIN, Zone 5
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl" <dp2413@comcast.net>
>>> To: "gardenchat" <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] More pet product recall
>>>
>>>
>>> Small market for specialty food, so they can.
>>>>
>>>> The main thing with making cat food is getting enough Taurine into it.
>>>> It's
>>>> fairly easy to supply- available at the health food store and seems to
>>>> be
>>>> quite palatable. When our poor kitten was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy,
>>>> the
>>>> vet recommended additional taurine in case he lived long enough to
>>>> benefit
>>>> from it. And if you're feeding your cats chicken, beef and liver instead
>>>> of
>>>> a vegetarian diet, chances of taurine deficiency are slim.
>>>>
>>>> Your vet may have recipes available, as ours does. I asked our vet why
>>>> he
>>>> didn't suggest that first, he said that most people just want to open a
>>>> can.
>>>> Even if he doesn't have recipes available, there are dozens on line.
>>>>
>>>> And remember, when I was a little girl, commercial pet food was just
>>>> becoming widely available. Before that, animals ate what their people
>>>> ate,
>>>> for the most part.
>>>>
>>>> d
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] More pet product recall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not separate feeding this time.  Both Seamus & Slugger will eat z/d
>>>>> canned
>>>>> and dry.  I see they now also have hypoallergenic treats.  No corn,
>>>>> dairy,
>>>>> or fish are the main things I need to look for.  Locally z/d is $6 a
>>>>> pound. I did find a place on line that, with a discount, I can get it
>>>>> down
>>>>> to $5.53. I also found mention on message boards of the abilty to get
>>>>> coupons from Hills.
>>>>>
>>>>> Making their food?  That's a thought; I could ask the doctor. I don't
>>>>> know
>>>>> how easy or economical that might be to ensure they get all the
>>>>> nutrients
>>>>> they need.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had them on Felidae Platinum for awhile and, though it seemed to
>>>>> reduce
>>>>> his fits a bit, it wasn't good enough. It has fish & egg.   I'm going
>>>>> to
>>>>> have to keep an eye on Seamus while they're on z/d though.  I don't
>>>>> think
>>>>> it provides any benefit against FUS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just don't understand why ANY cat food has to cost that much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kitty
>>>>> neIN, Zone 5
>>>>>
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Pam Evans
Kemp TX
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