RE: time to vent!

Nope- unfortunately it's more than just the bible belt- Heck I'm here in
central california and I very clearly am an oddity in my neighborhood full
of youngish families and couples.  I am the ONLY woman outside working (or
having fun in my opinion).  I get lots of comments about how nice the garden
is, but I know far more of the guys in the neighborhood than women- because
I see them.

Theresa

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
Behalf Of james singer
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:06 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] time to vent!


All this "men's work/women's work" stuff is gibberish to me. I was born
in the early 30s [very early, Hoover was president] when that sort of
nonsense was accepted by most people. But times change and continue to
change. Women have been more-or-less liberated from such stupid
stereotypes. Or so I thought. But maybe not in the bible belt. Hello?


On Monday, June 21, 2004, at 04:45 PM, Kitty wrote:

>> It amazing me that girls don't think they or women are
>> capable of using a pruning saw and almost insist that my husband
>> should be
>
> Even with all the efforts of the women's movement, some people still
> have
> not moved forward.  They still live and breathe stereotype.  Coming of
> age
> in the 60s and 70s, the movement did influence me in what I view to be
> positive ways for the most part.  But I think, even without the
> movement, I
> would not be a "men's work - women's work" type.  For the most part,
> if I
> want something done, I can do it unless it requires special knowledge
> or
> strength I don't have.  I also think if you can eat, you can cook and
> wash
> dishes.  If you can use a bathroom, you can clean one.  This is not the
> women's movement speaking, it is just pure common sense.
> Kitty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tchessie" <tchessie@comcast.net>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:57 AM
> Subject: RE: [CHAT] time to vent!
>
>
>> It cracks me up when the kids in my neighborhood ask me why I'm
>> outside
>> working (this happened again last week as I was pruning a low branch
>> off a
>> bradford pear).  It amazing me that girls don't think they or women
>> are
>> capable of using a pruning saw and almost insist that my husband
>> should be
>> doing it.  My husband and I however have a very clear agreement- the
> outside
>> of the house is my territory.  I only does something if I
>> specifically ask
>> for his help.  Mind you, I wouldn't mind if he mowed the yard
>> occasionally
>> without my asking- but I can live with that too.  I have never had him
> chop
>> down, pull up or otherwise destroy a plant.  And he is a great sport-
> after
>> I've planted, moved or trimmed anything, he's always willing to be
>> drug
> out
>> and view the new look.  He smiles and says it looks great, even
>> though I
>> know half the time he can't tell what is different.
>>
>> Theresa
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
>> Behalf Of cathy carpenter
>> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 2:04 PM
>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] time to vent!
>>
>>
>> At least he didn't hit it with Round-Up! You won't have blooms this
>> year, but it should come back. Gary is dangerous with any cutting
>> instruments (mowers, weed wackers, etc) or chemicals. He mowed down 3
>> of my long established big bluestem this year, and he supposedly knows
>> the border of the bed they were planted in. Any shrub or tree newly
>> planted is marked with those little construction flags - makes for an
>> attractive yard!
>> My condolences,
>> Cathy
>> On Sunday, June 20, 2004, at 01:16 PM, james singer wrote:
>>
>>> Donna, my sympathy. But this is one of the reasons Ms. Fatma and I
>>> continually remind one another about pet projects. We do much garden
>>> stuff together, but there are also lots of things we do individually
>>> [she has only a gastronomic interest in tropical fruit, for example].
>>> Talking and pointing help a lot.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 20, 2004, at 02:04 PM, Donna wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know many of you on this list are --um-- single, and I may be too
>>>> if
>>>> this trend continues.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday while I was on 'the girls' road trip, DH who should not
>>>> even
>>>> be outside, decided to help me in the garden....
>>>>
>>>> He proceeded to cut down my entire patch of queen of the prairie, a
>>>> 5
>>>> X
>>>> 5 ft stand about to bloom this week.
>>>>
>>>> I came home, looked out the patio door and had a fit!
>>>>
>>>> He thought it was a weed with seed heads and didn't want it to
>>>> spread...
>>>> it only took me 5 years to get it to fill the area!...destroyed in
>>>> an
>>>> afternoon.
>>>>
>>>> Grumble, grumble....
>>>>
>>>> Donna
>>>> I figured this list would understand why I am upset, seems no one
>>>> here
>>>> does:(
>>>>
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