Re: Off to the Garden/mock orange

You think?

David
http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center" <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange


Why, thank you Paul Harvey!
But then, that means Idaho's state flower is named after a dog, not an
explorer - unless you're pulling my leg, which is quite likely.
Kitty
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange


It's named after Lewis of Lewis and Clark.  Famed explorers and

naturalists.

Syringa was their dog.  The flower was discovered when the dog was found
doing what dogs do on fire hydrants only this time on the flowers.  Being

an
animal lover Lewis named it after himself and the dog.

How's that for a history lesson?!

David
http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
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Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange


> OK - I am guessing that I have the chicken and the egg all mixed up in
an
> omelette.
> Google has been no help, so here's my best guess. Syringa, the common
> name
> for Philadelphus lewisii, is some sort of Native American word for > this
> plant. Meriweather Lewis "discovered" this tree/shrub on his travels
and

> asked the Indians, "What do you call this?"  He sent samples and

drawings

> and the name Syringa back to England for taxonomic cataloging.  It was
> decided this was a new Philadelphus and they gave it the species name,
> lewisii, to honor Lewis for finding it.  When Idaho became a state and
> needed a state flower/tree/shrub, they decided to honor Lewis by

selecting

> a
> plant that was named in his honor, P. lewisii, which just happens to be
> commonly known as Syringa.  So the designation as the state's plant has

to

> do with its botanical name.  Syringa has nothing to do with it except

that
> that is probably what it was called before (and after) Lewis discovered
> it.
>
> Kitty
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange
>
>
>>
>
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh

>> hhhhh!!!
>> Yes, I know who Lewis and Clark were, Mr. Historyman.  What I want to
>> know
>> is why, when they were naming the state flower for Lewis, they called

it
>> Syringa? Why isn't Phildelphus lewisii called Meriweather?
>>
>> Kitty
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
>>
>> > Kitty, I believe it was named after Lewis as in Lewis and Clark.
>> > Meriweather Lewis.
>> >
>> > David
>> > http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "James R. Fisher" <garrideb@well.com>
>> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:34 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange
>> >
>> >
>> > > Kitty wrote:
>> > >> That is terribly confusing to non-Idahoans, Judy. You are saying
> they
>> > >> use
>> > >> the botanical name for the genus of Lilacs as a common name for a
> Mock
>> > >> Orange?
>> > >> And... if they named it after a guy named Lewis, then why isn't >> > >> it
>> called
>> > >> Lewis? (or Lewisia to make it even stranger)? Was his name
Syringa
>> > >> Lewis?
>> > >>
>> > >> Kitty
>> > >> neIN, Z5
>> > >
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > > Some Idahoans do seem to be botanically challenged (Judy not
> included),
>> > > but here it is in full color, halfway down the page:
>> > > http://tinyurl.com/7lm6w
>> > > -jrf
>> > > -- >> > > Jim Fisher
>> > > Vienna, Virginia USA
>> > > 38.9 N 77.2 W
>> > > USDA Zone 7
>> > > Max. 105 F [40 C], Min. 5 F [-15 C]
>> > >
>> >
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