Re: Off to the Garden/mock orange

Why, thank you Paul Harvey!
But then, that means Idaho's state flower is named after a dog, not an
explorer - unless you're pulling my leg, which is quite likely.
Kitty
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange


> It's named after Lewis of Lewis and Clark.  Famed explorers and
naturalists.
> Syringa was their dog.  The flower was discovered when the dog was found
> doing what dogs do on fire hydrants only this time on the flowers.  Being
an
> animal lover Lewis named it after himself and the dog.
>
> How's that for a history lesson?!
>
> David
> http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange
>
>
> > OK - I am guessing that I have the chicken and the egg all mixed up in
an
> > omelette.
> > Google has been no help, so here's my best guess.  Syringa, the common
> > name
> > for Philadelphus lewisii, is some sort of  Native American word for this
> > plant.  Meriweather Lewis "discovered" this tree/shrub on his travels
and
> > asked the Indians, "What do you call this?"  He sent samples and
drawings
> > and the name Syringa back to England for taxonomic cataloging.  It was
> > decided this was a new Philadelphus and they gave it the species name,
> > lewisii, to honor Lewis for finding it.  When Idaho became a state and
> > needed a state flower/tree/shrub, they decided to honor Lewis by
selecting
> > a
> > plant that was named in his honor, P. lewisii, which just happens to be
> > commonly known as Syringa.  So the designation as the state's plant has
to
> > do with its botanical name.  Syringa has nothing to do with it except
that
> > that is probably what it was called before (and after) Lewis discovered
> > it.
> >
> > Kitty
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> > <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:39 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange
> >
> >
> >>
> >
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh
> >> hhhhh!!!
> >> Yes, I know who Lewis and Clark were, Mr. Historyman.  What I want to
> >> know
> >> is why, when they were naming the state flower for Lewis, they called
it
> >> Syringa?  Why isn't Phildelphus lewisii called Meriweather?
> >>
> >> Kitty
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "David Franzman" <dfranzma@pacbell.net>
> >>
> >> > Kitty, I believe it was named after Lewis as in Lewis and Clark.
> >> > Meriweather Lewis.
> >> >
> >> > David
> >> > http://www.atouchofthetropics.net
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "James R. Fisher" <garrideb@well.com>
> >> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:34 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Off to the Garden/mock orange
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Kitty wrote:
> >> > >> That is terribly confusing to non-Idahoans, Judy.  You are saying
> > they
> >> > >> use
> >> > >> the botanical name for the genus of Lilacs as a common name for a
> > Mock
> >> > >> Orange?
> >> > >> And... if they named it after a guy named Lewis, then why isn't it
> >> called
> >> > >> Lewis? (or Lewisia to make it even stranger)?  Was his name
Syringa
> >> > >> Lewis?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Kitty
> >> > >> neIN, Z5
> >> > >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> > > Some Idahoans do seem to be botanically challenged (Judy not
> > included),
> >> > > but here it is in full color, halfway down the page:
> >> > > http://tinyurl.com/7lm6w
> >> > > -jrf
> >> > > -- 
> >> > > Jim Fisher
> >> > > Vienna, Virginia USA
> >> > > 38.9 N 77.2 W
> >> > > USDA Zone 7
> >> > > Max. 105 F [40 C], Min. 5 F [-15 C]
> >> > >
> >> >
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