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Re: Soil pH


Donna, 
I don't know much about these things.  What are the byproducts of vinegar?

--
Kitty 
neIN, Zone5

-------------- Original message -------------- 

> as any ponder/fish colelctor can tell you - vinger and 
> baking soda are always on hand supplies to control the 
> ph of the water. (over doing will cause more problems, 
> but...) 
> 
> So wondering if plants use up the by products when in 
> soil like they do in water to adjust the soil ph? 
> 
> any one know? Jim our resident chemist have any link 
> on that thought? 
> 
> Donna 
> 
> 
> --- Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center 
> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote: 
> 
> > Sometimes. Several years ago when I was taking hort 
> > classes, I noticed how 
> > much better plants looked after rain compared to tap 
> > water. I began to 
> > wonder about the pH of our tap water since this part 
> > of the country is quite 
> > alkaline. So I checked with the city and they told 
> > me they try to keep it 
> > at 9, but it does get away from them., so up to 10 
> > is a possibility. I 
> > posed the question in my MG classes and never got a 
> > definitive answer about 
> > the affect, but the Hort Ed agreed that it would at 
> > least have some affect, 
> > except that we get a fair amount of rain here that 
> > probably counteracts it. 
> > More recently, I did come across a study on it which 
> > proved my theory, but I 
> > don't know where I filed it right now. One can 
> > alter the 9 or 10 pH by 
> > adding vinegar to a hose end sprayer. Again, just 
> > now I don't recall the 
> > ratio. 
> > 
> > Kitty 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David Franzman" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:15 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Soil pH 
> > 
> > 
> > > Kitty, it seems to me that you have to take into 
> > account the water you use 
> > > to water your plants with. My soil is around 6 
> > when delivered and then 
> > > gradually becomes 6.5 because of watering. 
> > > 
> > > Is your water really 10??? 
> > > 
> > > David 
> > > http://www.atouchofthetropics.net 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Kitty" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:14 PM 
> > > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Soil pH 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Manual may have been written before acid rain 
> > got to be a problem. I 
> > > > would 
> > > > think distilled water too. But I wouldn't think 
> > rainwater would have a 
> > pH 
> > > > of 
> > > > 4, would it? (compared to my10 tapwater) 
> > > > 
> > > > Kitty 
> > > > neIN, Z5 
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Donna" 
> > > > To: 
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:42 PM 
> > > > Subject: RE: [CHAT] Soil pH 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> Hum... rainwater should be acidic... how about 
> > distilled water? 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Donna 
> > > >> 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > What water did you use? If you used my tap 
> > water, its pH of 9 or 10 
> > > > could 
> > > >> > skew the results. My meter manual suggests 
> > rainwater. 
> > > >> > Kitty 
> > > >> > neIN, Z5 
> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> > From: "David Franzman" 
> > > >> > To: 
> > > >> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:19 PM 
> > > >> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Soil pH 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > > Hey Jim 
> > > >> > > 
> > > >> > > I just got a test kit from my local ag 
> > chemical company. Much 
> > > >> > > cheaper 
> > > >> > than 
> > > >> > > a meter. You add soil and water shake a 
> > little and it gives you a 
> > ph 
> > > >> > > reading. I think it was about five bucks. 
> > Probably not as 
> > accurate 
> > > > as 
> > > >> > a 
> > > >> > > meter but how accurate do you need it to 
> > be? 
> > > >> > > 
> > > >> > > David 
> > > >> > > http://www.atouchofthetropics.net 
> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> > > From: "james singer" 
> > 
> > > >> > > To: "Garden Chat" 
> > > >> > > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:35 PM 
> > > >> > > Subject: [CHAT] Soil pH 
> > > >> > > 
> > > >> > > 
> > > >> > > > How do you [all] determine soil pH? 
> > [Trying to decide if it's 
> > worth 
> > > >> > > > springing for a meter.] 
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > > Island Jim 
> > > >> > > > Southwest Florida 
> > > >> > > > 27.0 N, 82.4 W 
> > > >> > > > Hardiness Zone 10 
> > > >> > > > Heat Zone 10 
> > > >> > > > Minimum 30 F [-1 C] 
> > > >> > > > Maximum 100 F [38 C] 
> > > >> > > > 
> > > >> > > 
> > > >> 
> > 
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