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Re: Paeonia japonica


Gene,
That's the sequence I used - I think I got it from  Deno's book.  But
perhaps the warm moist wasn't warm enough or the cold moist wasn't moist
enough, or whatever.  I have never been successful with stratification.

BTW, I am getting nice clusters of European Ginger under all my peonies.
The ants must think they've struck a goldmine.

Kitty
neIN, Z5
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Bush" <genebush@otherside.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Paeonia japonica


> Kitty,
>     The way I understand it, sequence of stratification is very important
> with peony seed. Must start off with warm moist, go to cold moist and back
> to warm moist for germination. Miss a step and they wait it out for the
> right timing to come back around. So... seeds should be sown late summer,
go
> through winter and come back to spring once more. I get germination of
seeds
> around my peonies all the time out in the garden and I try to keep the
seeds
> clipped.
>     Gene E. Bush
> Munchkin Nursery & Gardens, llc
> www.munchkinnursery.com
> genebush@munchkinnursery.com
> Zone 6/5  Southern Indiana
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center"
> <4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] Paeonia japonica
>
>
> > Marge,
> > I also have P. obovata, another woodland peony, but with pink blooms.
> > It's
> > shoots are only up a few inches so far, but it bloomed the first year
(got
> > them at the same time, but obovata came from Seneca while japonica came
> > from
> > PDN - I think PDN gets them from Seneca, divides them and charges twice
as
> > much).
> >
> > I posted a picture of the red, white, and blue seedpod from obovata last
> > year.  I tried germinating the seed in a baggie os smoist sphagnum, in
and
> > out of refrigeration, but no luck.  They're back in the fridge again.  I
> > was
> > thinking of pitching them, but if you're willing to give them 3 yrs,
maybe
> > I'll let them sit awhile longer.
> >
> > BTW - I don't really mind 'fleeting' flowers when they are this
gorgeous.
> > I
> > don't have a display garden and it doesn't have much of a design.  I
just
> > have what I like (and can afford) and the fact that each has its special
> > moment for me to glory in, is enough for me.
> >
> > Kitty
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
> > To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] Paeonia japonica
> >
> >
> >> Isn't it a lovely child?  I got one a few years ago, too.  1st year,
> >> 1 stem; 1 flower - now it is putting up several stems and flowers and
> >> yours will prob. do this as well as time passes.  Flowers are very
> >> fleeting, but followed by marvelous seed pods.  One of my fav. things
> >> about this plant is the color of the new stems as they come up.
> >> Foliage also stays nice - they will go dormant if they get too dry.
> >>
> >> I also like that it wants woodland conditions as most 'regular'
> >> peonies need a lot more sun than I have to offer; have only 5 of
> >> those and no where else for any more:-(
> >>
> >> I planted the seeds mine formed around the mother plant, but so far
> >> have not seen anything that I could ID as a possible child - think it
> >> takes a couple years or something (I hope)....I have yet to have any
> >> success germinating peonies.    Discovered germination in two of the
> >> many seedpots of other things I've had sitting doing nothing for 3
> >> years, so sometimes it just takes time.
> >>
> >> Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> >> mtalt@hort.net
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> >>
> >> ----------
> >> > From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> >> >
> >> > I got this plant a few years ago.  The first year it just wilted
> >> down and
> >> > disappeared.  The second year it had a bud, but it never opened.
> >> This year
> >> > it has 3 buds, two opened today.  This is a woodland peony, and I
> >> just love
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kmrsy/detail?.dir=c1ea&.dnm=f928.jpg&.sr
> >> c=ph
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