Re: Biochem moisturizer warning


Years and years ago I was fed up with itching from Dial soap, but reluctant
to use moisturizer bars like Caress because I wanted to get that
antibacterial clean that you get from real soap.  I finally asked the
pharmacist if anyone made a soap that combined antibacterial and
moisturizers.  She thought awhile and said she couldn't think of any.  Just
a month or two later Dial came out with an antibacterial soap with vitamin e
and aloe. I've used that ever since.

Kitty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [CHAT] Biochem moisturizer warning


> Don't use anything either... only caress or dove soap. Of course, I don't
> use makeup either other than some occasional mascara, and then not always.
>
> Somehow never liked how makeup felt, so even in my teen years didn't mess
> with the stuff, although I did use more eye enhancing stuff.
>
> I suppose some day I will regret not conditioning my skin...
>
> Donna
>
> > Gee, I guess I should be more grateful for oily skin, huh?  I don't
> > have to mess w/ any of that junk.  Have some Burt's Bees carrot oil
> > spray for when I garden in the winter and get windburned, but that's
> > about it.
> >
> >
> > On 5/11/05, Theresa <tchessie@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > You sound like me- except I finally caved and went to the esthetician
in
> > > the dermatology and plastic surgery department here at work to find
> > > something to make my skin happier (or at least not quite so angry!).
> > > I've been using Obagi for over a year now, and I actually do not hate
my
> > > skin for the first time ever!  I'm also using GloMineral cosmetics
which
> > > has been wonderful too!
> > >
> > > Theresa (the woman with really sensitive and also oily skin)
> > >
> > > A A HODGES wrote:
> > >
> > > >Kitty, although I really can't afford it, I use products by Borghese,
a
> > > >rather expensive Italian cosmetics line (Gotta love Ebay) and my skin
> > is
> > > >extremely sensitive. I LOVE this stuff. Found it years ago when I was
> > > >working in a dept store in college. Got it free back then, went
through
> > all
> > > >those lines at the stores and finally said forget it! I'm using
> > Borghese.
> > > >LOVE IT! Smells divine and has been great for my skin. I sound like
an
> > ad I
> > > >know, LOL!
> > > >A
> > > >
> > > >Andrea H
> > > >Beaufort, SC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>[Original Message]
> > > >>From: Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > ><4042N15@nationalhearing.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > >>Date: 5/11/2005 5:14:10 PM
> > > >>Subject: Re: [CHAT] Biochem moisturizer warning
> > > >>
> > > >>I'm wondering if maybe they got a bad batch; some sort of accident
in
> > the
> > > >>manufacturing process.  If it affects all skin in such a bad way, I
> > can't
> > > >>see it getting approved in the first place.  The stuff I tried from
> > Avon,
> > > >>called "Anew" has been praised by lots of people, but my skin is
more
> > > >>sensitive and it almost burned my face off.  Sensitive skin people
> > just
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >have
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>to be careful of things they try.  But if this Biochem product
> > affected
> > > >>everyone, I'm thinking bad batch.
> > > >>
> > > >>BTW - out of curiosity I took a stroll over to the cosmetics area
and
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >looked
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>at products by Aveeno, Clearasil, Dove, Neutrogena, Face Lift, Skin
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >Simple,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Nivea, Ponds, Loreal, and Olay.  All these brands use acids in some
of
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >their
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>products, including stearic acid, lauric acid, sorbic acid, linoleic
> > and
> > > >>linolenic acids, citric acid, myristic acid, palmitic acid, and this
> > > >>interesting one: C18-36 acid.  This isn't counting all the alcohols
> > and
> > > >>acetates.  Acid might just mean a beneficial ingredient that has a
low
> > pH,
> > > >>doesn't mean it has to harm skin, provided it's used properly.
> > > >>
> > > >>Kitty
> > > >>All I use on my skin is Cetaphil
> > > >>
> > > >>Kitty
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>Bought it OTC apparently.  The plastic surgeon was appalled when he
> > > >>>saw the ingredients, so there must be some kind of non-beneficial
> > acid
> > > >>>in there.  It's nuts.
> > > >>>And she said all the nurses who used this garbage had the same
> > > >>>results, terrible burns all over their faces.  I just figured I'd
> > > >>>better warn y'all too.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>On 5/11/05, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center
> > > >>><4042N15@nationalhearing.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Pam,
> > > >>>>Re > This garbage has ACID in it.
> > > >>>>There's all sorts of acids and many used in face creams, causing
no
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>harm.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>Was your friend testing it for the manufacturer or bought it OTC?
> > > >>>>Years ago an Avon Rep asked me to test a new face cream.  It very
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >nearly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>removed my face.  But they are still selling it.  Some people have
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >more
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>sensitive skin than others.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Kitty
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>>From: "Pam Evans" <gardenqueen@gmail.com>
> > > >>>>To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> > > >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:13 PM
> > > >>>>Subject: [CHAT] Biochem moisturizer warning
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>Not sure of the spelling of Biochem, but don't use this
> > moisturizer.
> > > >>>>>A nurse friend of mine just stopped by and her face is totally
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >burned
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>from this stuff, and she only had it on her face for a minute or
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >two.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>A bunch of them at her work (Medical City - Dallas) ordered this
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >stuff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>and used it and now they all look like they have leprosy.  It's
> > > >>>>>hideous.  This garbage has ACID in it.  My face could qualify for
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >OPEC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>membership it's so oily, but most of you, being gardeners,
probably
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >do
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>have to use moisturizer at times.
> > > >>>>>Do not use this kind, I'd hate for you to suffer the damage I saw
> > on
> > > >>>>>Vicki's face tonight.  Horrendous.
> > > >>>>>Yes, legal action is pending.  A plastic surgeon at the hospital
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >where
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>>>they work is documenting everything.  But I don't want to see any
> > of
> > > >>>>>you get burned (literally) in the meantime.  Ugh.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>--
> > > >>>>>Pam Evans
> > > >>>>>Kemp TX
> > > >>>>>zone 8A
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
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> > > >>>Kemp TX
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