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Re: bermudagrass wars

I guess I should have said the clay component of soil.  The problem with the
clay soil you are referring to is that people just throw up their hands and
say they can't do anything about it while they rake up all their leaves and
tell the city to haul them away.  Clay can be amended and enriched.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melody" <mhobertm@excite.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] bermudagrass wars

> Kitty: You are as usual, right on all accounts about soil composition.
> When I say clay, I guess I'm talking about the stuff you see all along
> the river beds every where here in Iowa...thick, clumpy stuff that can
> be used to make pottery if one is so inclined...people actually have
> that stuff in their yards, buried under just a couple inches of turf
> grass...ugh!!!!! I guess I just don't think of loam as containing clay
> (although I know it does) just because it is so dark and pretty to look
> at, as well as being heavenly to work in. Guess I should know by now
> that I have to watch my semantics when I'm talking to this
> group...LOL!!!! :-)
> Melody, IA (Z 5/4)
> "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious."
> --Albert Einstein
>  --- On Tue 09/02, Kitty < kmrsy@comcast.net > wrote:
> From: Kitty [mailto: kmrsy@comcast.net]
> To: gardenchat@hort.net
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 18:34:09 -0500
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] bermudagrass  wars
> Well, I was just guessing. Actually clay gets a bad rap. It's not
> always<br>that bad. When someone says they have no clay - that's really
> not that<br>good. If you take a look at a soil pyramid<br>
> plays a part in more than half the area. Clay helps to retain
> moisture<br>and improves cation exchange. As regards the texture of the
> soil:<br>"Texture refers to the composition of the strata according to
> the USDA soil<br>pyramid, which classifies soils based on percentages of
> sand, clay and silt.<br>A loam has roughly equal amounts of sand, silt
> and clay. A clayey silt is<br>predominantly silt with some clay, but may
> also contain sand, etc."<br>So if you have a nice loam soil, you do
> indeed have some clay. The clay you<br>reaaly don't want is
> blue.<br><br>Kitty<br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- <br>From:
> <Cersgarden@aol.com><br>To: <gardenchat@hort.net><br>Sent: Tuesday,
> September 02, 2003 5!
> :14 PM<br>Subject: Re: [CHAT] bermudagrass wars<br><br><br>> In a
> message dated 9/2/03 1:15:46 AM, mhobertm@excite.com writes:<br>><br>>
> << Hmmm....I bet clay soil would have done a better job of<br>> holding
> on to that<br>> tree. :+) >><br>><br>> Kitty, our tornado of 98' didn't
> recognize the fact our soils were clay.<br>We<br>> lost 9 trees in our
> garden, several of those uprooted but the home behind<br>us<br>> had an
> enormous ugly cottonwood and it was pulled up by the roots also.<br>>
> Ceres<br>><br>>
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