Re: Katrina cont > today
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- From: "David Franzman" d*@pacbell.net
- Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:46:37 -0700
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Hi Cathy
I understand what you are saying. The magnitude is unbelievable. But, again I ask where is the leadership? President Bush just said something about government and private enterprise taking the lead as if this is some kind of social welfare program. I have heard him say several times over the last couple of days that the feds will send whatever the local and state governments want them to send. You see to me this is what a federal system is supposed to do. Protect and provide in the case of a national emergency. The feds should have taken this right from the start. Not rely on the poor local or even state governments to try and organize a relief effort of this magnitude. This is a national crisis not a local one. Nobody else has the resources for this kind of effort like the feds and therefore nobody should be leading this except the feds. Their dithering is kind of disgusting.
Anyway, I write this in complete calm and not wanting to start a political debate or argument. I say what I say without being personal and with as much respect as I can for those who don't agree with me. The magnitude of the crisis is huge but I think the response has been slow and unorganized.
David
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
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But seriously, look at the size of the area affected and the number of people involved and the complexity of the needs - food, water, transport, yes, but also protection from disease, looters, and further injury secondary to the storm. Then look at where the help is coming from - all over the US (we have a NG military police unit and a transportation Reserve unit being mobilized in our area, plus ARC disaster response teams). Getting large numbers of people and supplies into a place where airports and harbors and even the river ports have been seriously compromised is another issue. All this does take time, even though we would all have rather it could be done yesterday. And NG/Reserve/ARC/whoever else can offer experienced help are necessary - who else is available to actually make sure that people receive the food and water? who else can assist in finding stranded victims? who else can be expected to control looters and remove the dead and vaccinate the living? Frustration is running high and I can understand that, but it will be a long, long time before that devastated region and people will achieve anything near normal conditions. Cathy, west central IL, z5b On Sep 1, 2005, at 6:00 PM, james singer wrote:Don't want to sound picky, but if you are hungry, thirsty, and disenfranchised, "sending in National Guard troops" doesn't quite cut it. National Guard troops are what the Fox News thumb suckers say they need. What the folks really need is help. Real help. Food, water, and a way out of that mess. Now. Not when Haliburton gets a contract. Now. Now. Now. On Sep 1, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Chapel Ridge Wal Mart National Hearing Center wrote:They are sending in National Guard troops, Jim, but it's a shame so many of our NG are on the other side of the world instead of here where we need them. We are just spread soooooooo thin. Yeah, be patient. I bet many of those people feel so lost and abandoned. Kitty ----- Original Message ----- From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net> To: <gardenchat@hort.net> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [CHAT] Katrina cont > todayThe drama that is unfolding in NOLa today is mind-blowing. Dead
bodies
piling up in the streets, tens of thousands of people isolated
without
food and water, the mayor sending out a national SOS--while his
excellency and his bureaucrats tug at their underwear and keep
saying
"Be patient." Absolutely incredible.
Island Jim
Southwest Florida
27.0 N, 82.4 W
Hardiness Zone 10
Heat Zone 10
Minimum 30 F [-1 C]
Maximum 100 F [38 C]
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