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RE: [GWL]: Rodale Press

Miranda,
You are right, we need a forum.  I need to point out however (picky, picky,
picky) the issue at hand was a tree being eaten by Japanese beetles.  Milky
spore does not deal with trees, and Neem has the same problem as the
pyrethroids or the organophosphates - it needs to be sprayed over the entire
tree and contact should be made with the beetle.  Milky spore will only
control the development of beetles where you use it.  The beetles can still
come from the neighbor's yard.  Nematodes will work ONLY if they are applied
properly and at the right time; it can be very tricky.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Miranda Smith [m*@tagoresmith.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Gardenwriters@topica.com
Subject: Re: [GWL]: Rodale Press

My perspective on this topic is a little bit different. Personally--that is,
as a private person--I believe that some substances currently outlawed by
Organic Certification Regs are preferable to approved substances. A good
example is the use of Imidan (outlawed) for plum curculio vs. rotenone
(approved). Imidan is far less ecologically damaging than rotenone. But
thanks to the restrictive nature of the national law, growers who want to be
certified sometimes have to make poor choices in favor of the letter, rather
than the spirit, of the legislation. This is a drag and every organic farmer
in the country knows it.

Consequently, I think there is a real need for published information that
details the "certifiable" way to do things as well as alternatives that
might or might not be more ecologically sensitive. Jeff is correct--there is
no such forum at this time. I don't know how large a readership you could
find for this kind of information, but I'm guessing that the many readers of
OG would be very happy to subscribe to such a publication along about now.
So if any of you have venture capital looking for a home, you might consider
such a publication.

Incidently, there are "certifiable" ways to deal with Japanese beetles. In
Zones 6 and southward, milky spore really does kill the grubs. In Zone 5,
milky spore might or might not survive long enough to provide control. In
Zones 5 through 3, you can count on beneficial nematodes. For the adult
beetles, you can use Neem. It's effective and certifiable. (The politics
behind the registration of Neem products are a little dicey though--I think
that kind of information also needs open discussion in the mainstream
press.)

Miranda Smith



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> From: "Jeff Ball" <jeffball@starband.net>
> To: <Gardenwriters@topica.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:18 PM
> Subject: RE: [GWL]: Rodale Press
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