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Re: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 61, Issue 7
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> 1. Re: blogs and scrapers (Douglas Green)
> 2. southern weeds (blombem@gvillesun.com)
> 3. Re: blogs and scrapers (carlobal@netzero.net)
> 4. Re: blogs and scrapers (loisdan@juno.com)
> 5. Re: blogs and scrapers (Nancy Szerlag)
> 6. Re: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 61, Issue 6 (Cathy Wilkinson
> Barash)
> 7. Re: blogs and scrapers (Yvonne Cunnington)
> 8. Re: blogs and scrapers (Jodi DeLong)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 13:42:12 -0600
> From: Douglas Green <dgreen@kos.net>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] blogs and scrapers
> To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <C2F8267A-B636-4BA5-9F1C-0D8F8C1B4070@kos.net>
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> As a final note to scrapers because I really have to get some work
> done today - let me suggest a last step when you find somebody
> scraping your content. And that is to report them to google
> adsense. :-) There is a complaint form for this kind of thing on the
> adsense site and a complaint to google will bring down the scraper's
> adsense account. I'm sure they have others but hit 'em where it hurts
> folks. ;-)
>
> Doug
>
> Douglas Green
> Online Garden Publishing
> Blog: http://blog.douggreensgarden.com
> Home: http://www.simplegiftsfarm.com
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>
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:46:51 -0500
> From: blombem@gvillesun.com
> Subject: [GWL] southern weeds
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org, amoore@sc.rr.com
> Message-ID:
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> As Anne noted (and I was remiss for not mentioning it) Florida
> betony is a
> pervasive winter weed. Fortunately, it is fairly easy to pull by
> hand -
> just as long as you get all the roots and do it before it sets seed.
> An interesting note (and others may wonder if I'm a modern-day Euell
> Gibbons) the rattlesnake weed (as it is called because its tuberous
> roots
> look like rattles) is edible! A member of the mint family (check the
> square
> stems), its white tubers taste like radishes when raw - an herbalist
> described the flavor as between mint and horseradish. They can also be
> roasted.
> Marina/Gainesville/Florida
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:55:08 GMT
> From: "carlobal@netzero.net" <carlobal@netzero.net>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] blogs and scrapers
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Message-ID: <20080206.145508.18799.2@webmail13.vgs.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> List members are well advised to heed Doug's warning. I went to the
> site in question and found my entire blog copied wholesale. I have
> already complained to Google Adsense (such action violates THEIR
> policies as well as copyright law), and will be contacting whoever I
> can find that is responsible for this pirate-ship of a web site.
>
>
> Carlo A. Balistrieri
> The Gardens at Turtle Point
> Tuxedo Park, NY 10987
> Zone 6 (845.351.2049)
> Visit: www.botanicalgardening.com
> _____________________________________________________________
> Click for travel nursing jobs and see the world.
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:08:54 -0500
> From: loisdan@juno.com
> Subject: Re: [GWL] blogs and scrapers
> To: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Cc: gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org
> Message-ID: <20080206.150854.3328.0.loisdan@juno.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Thanks, everybody. They got me, too.
>
> Lois de Vries
> Visit http://loisdevries.blogspot.com
>
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:55:08 GMT "carlobal@netzero.net"
> <carlobal@netzero.net> writes:
>> List members are well advised to heed Doug's warning. I went to the
>> site in question and found my entire blog copied wholesale. I have
>> already complained to Google Adsense (such action violates THEIR
>> policies as well as copyright law), and will be contacting whoever I
>> can find that is responsible for this pirate-ship of a web site.
>>
>>
>> Carlo A. Balistrieri
>> The Gardens at Turtle Point
>> Tuxedo Park, NY 10987
>> Zone 6 (845.351.2049)
>> Visit: www.botanicalgardening.com
>> _____________________________________________________________
>> Click for travel nursing jobs and see the world.
>>
> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4uAN9mQoL6WR1nxBeFGD
> n4aGIRjYykGwqRE3OIPQYpW98iYW/
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:13:30 -0500
> From: Nancy Szerlag <szerlag@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] blogs and scrapers
> To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc: Nancy Szerlag <szerlag@earthlink.net>
> Message-ID: <CB610F50-8FCD-498F-B9D3-AB4CE8A34DF2@earthlink.net>
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> Yipes, the blog I share with Jeff Ball has also been scraped. Thanks
> Carlo and Doug.
>
> Nancy Szerlag
>
> On Feb 6, 2008, at 7:55 PM, carlobal@netzero.net wrote:
>
>> List members are well advised to heed Doug's warning. I went to the
>> site in question and found my entire blog copied wholesale. I have
>> already complained to Google Adsense (such action violates THEIR
>> policies as well as copyright law), and will be contacting whoever
>> I can find that is responsible for this pirate-ship of a web site.
>>
>>
>> Carlo A. Balistrieri
>> The Gardens at Turtle Point
>> Tuxedo Park, NY 10987
>> Zone 6 (845.351.2049)
>> Visit: www.botanicalgardening.com
>> _____________________________________________________________
>> Click for travel nursing jobs and see the world.
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/
>> Ioyw6i4uAN9mQoL6WR1nxBeFGDn4aGIRjYykGwqRE3OIPQYpW98iYW/
>>
>>
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> Nancy Szerlag
> Columnist for Detroit News
> szerlag@earthlink.net
> Check blog at www.gardeneryardener.blogspot.com
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:18:33 -0600
> From: Cathy Wilkinson Barash <bloominggourmet@mchsi.com>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] gardenwriters Digest, Vol 61, Issue 6
> To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <C3CF7239.5C94%bloominggourmet@mchsi.com>
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>
> And while we're at it, let's find out how much water and chemicals
> (I'd love
> to think it was organic, but that's a pipe-dream for a future
> administration) are used on the White House gardens. With a $3
> trillion
> plus budget, every penny that could be saved.......Go for edible
> landscaping, low maintenance, and native plants. Just think how many
> people that garden could feed!!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Cathy
>
> Cathy Wilkinson Barash
> Freelance writer, photographer, editor
> Author of Edible Flowers from Garden to Palate, Evening Gardens
> 753 17th Street
> Des Moines IA 50314
> Phone; 515-282-5172
> Fax: 515-243-5353
> Email bloominggourmet@mchsi.com
>
> Message-ID: <20080205175051.5E429BA31@thinkhost.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Here are some more of my thoughts which I wrote for another garden
> writer
> but which address Rose Marie's question of "who'd take this on?"
>
> ----
>
> I think there's a lot of symbolic power in the White House as
> "America's
> House". We choose who lives there and how long. We pay the bills
> associated with the house, including the salaries of the 8 gardeners
> who
> maintain the 18 acres of grounds. It is only logical that we should
> have a
> say in what our house looks like and what messages it sends.
>
> All four of the main candidates are running on a "change" platform.
> "Vote
> for me to bring change to White House," they say. I recognize that
> "changing the lawn" by replacing part of it with edible gardens is
> probably
> not what most people have in mind, but it would send a number of
> messages,
> all of them positive. At a time when America is in the grips of an
> obesity
> epidemic and the world is struggling with climate change, it would
> send a
> message that fresh fruits and vegetables produced close to home are
> good and
> healthy things.
>
> All candidates are saying that they're the best person to reach out to
> independents and across the aisle to the other party. Gardens
> already do
> that. Productive home gardens are not conservative, liberal,
> democratic,
> republican, red, white, blue, black, Latino, male or female. They cut
> across all lines. They even cut across national borders.
>
>
> So what's standing in the way of change? I suspect the biggest
> argument
> against would be "tradition" : i.e. we can't plant a kitchen garden
> at the
> White House because it would involve tampering with a landscape of
> historical significance. In digging a little deeper in our history
> books,
> most people would be surprised to learn that planting edible gardens
> would
> not involve breaking traditions so much as returning to them. In
> 1800, John
> Adams was the first president to occupy the White House in 1800 and
> one of
> his first additions was a vegetable garden. It was 25 years later,
> in 1825,
> that John Quincy Adams developed the first flower garden on the
> White House
> grounds and planted ornamental trees. So, if there's a gardening
> tradition
> that's less well-rooted, it's that one. I don't know which
> President did
> away with the fruit and vegetables or why, but I know a garden
> historian who
> would.
>
> For me, promoting home gardens - at the highest of levels - is the
> responsible thing to do. Last August, the Guardian reported that
> more food
> will have to be produced worldwide over the next 50 years than has
> been
> during the past 10,000 years combined in order to keep up with
> population
> growth which is projected to hit 9 billion by 2050. That will
> involve some
> radical new thinking about what food is, where it comes from, and who
> produces it.
>
> I recognize that I'm partially the product of Maine's unusually-strong
> gardening culture (one relatively small state with several
> nationally-known
> garden writers and seed companies). We've even got our First Lady,
> Karen
> Baldacci, on board. Among her first acts as First Lady was to plant a
> kitchen garden and set up a greenhouse at the Governor's Mansion,
> Maine's
> answer to the White House. If it can happen at the state level,
> surely it
> can happen nationally.
>
>
>
>
>> From: <gardenwriters-request@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Reply-To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:31:42 -0500
>> To: <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 61, Issue 6
>>
>> Message-ID: <20080205175051.5E429BA31@thinkhost.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Here are some more of my thoughts which I wrote for another garden
>> writer
>> but which address Rose Marie's question of "who'd take this on?"
>>
>> ----
>>
>> I think there's a lot of symbolic power in the White House as
>> "America's
>> House". We choose who lives there and how long. We pay the bills
>> associated with the house, including the salaries of the 8
>> gardeners who
>> maintain the 18 acres of grounds. It is only logical that we
>> should have a
>> say in what our house looks like and what messages it sends.
>>
>> All four of the main candidates are running on a "change"
>> platform. "Vote
>> for me to bring change to White House," they say. I recognize that
>> "changing the lawn" by replacing part of it with edible gardens is
>> probably
>> not what most people have in mind, but it would send a number of
>> messages,
>> all of them positive. At a time when America is in the grips of an
>> obesity
>> epidemic and the world is struggling with climate change, it would
>> send a
>> message that fresh fruits and vegetables produced close to home are
>> good and
>> healthy things.
>>
>> All candidates are saying that they're the best person to reach out
>> to
>> independents and across the aisle to the other party. Gardens
>> already do
>> that. Productive home gardens are not conservative, liberal,
>> democratic,
>> republican, red, white, blue, black, Latino, male or female. They
>> cut
>> across all lines. They even cut across national borders.
>>
>>
>> So what's standing in the way of change? I suspect the biggest
>> argument
>> against would be "tradition" : i.e. we can't plant a kitchen garden
>> at the
>> White House because it would involve tampering with a landscape of
>> historical significance. In digging a little deeper in our history
>> books,
>> most people would be surprised to learn that planting edible
>> gardens would
>> not involve breaking traditions so much as returning to them. In
>> 1800, John
>> Adams was the first president to occupy the White House in 1800 and
>> one of
>> his first additions was a vegetable garden. It was 25 years later,
>> in 1825,
>> that John Quincy Adams developed the first flower garden on the
>> White House
>> grounds and planted ornamental trees. So, if there's a gardening
>> tradition
>> that's less well-rooted, it's that one. I don't know which
>> President did
>> away with the fruit and vegetables or why, but I know a garden
>> historian who
>> would.
>>
>> For me, promoting home gardens - at the highest of levels - is the
>> responsible thing to do. Last August, the Guardian reported that
>> more food
>> will have to be produced worldwide over the next 50 years than has
>> been
>> during the past 10,000 years combined in order to keep up with
>> population
>> growth which is projected to hit 9 billion by 2050. That will
>> involve some
>> radical new thinking about what food is, where it comes from, and who
>> produces it.
>>
>> I recognize that I'm partially the product of Maine's unusually-
>> strong
>> gardening culture (one relatively small state with several
>> nationally-known
>> garden writers and seed companies). We've even got our First Lady,
>> Karen
>> Baldacci, on board. Among her first acts as First Lady was to plant a
>> kitchen garden and set up a greenhouse at the Governor's Mansion,
>> Maine's
>> answer to the White House. If it can happen at the state level,
>> surely it
>> can happen nationally.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:22:20 -0500
> From: "Yvonne Cunnington" <ycunnington@ispnet.ca>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] blogs and scrapers
> To: "Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum"
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <02a201c868fd$fa16c530$6601a8c0@yvonne>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Re: http://gardening-blogs.emoondo.com/sitemap
>
> Now if we all send a message to Google (I've already done so as I
> found my
> material there too) that the site violates the following:
>
> Copyrighted Material
> Website publishers may not display Google ads on web pages with
> content
> protected by copyright law unless they have the necessary legal
> rights to
> display that content. Please see our DMCA policy for more information.
>
> __________________________________________________________
>
> Go to Google
> https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/answer.py?answer=18386
> and click
> on contact form and you'll be walked through the complaint process...
>
> Cheers, Yvonne Cunnington
>
> www.flower-gardening-made-easy.com
> http://countrygardener.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:26:40 -0400
> From: Jodi DeLong <jodi@xcountry.tv>
> Subject: Re: [GWL] blogs and scrapers
> To: Garden Writers -- GWL -- The Garden Writers Forum
> <gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Message-ID: <177B5258-4D8F-4E53-84EF-05232A8FF7A3@xcountry.tv>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;
> delsp=yes
>
> Doug, I know a lot of the bloggers being scraped (I'm not one of them,
> surprisingly, maybe because I keep my feed way short). May I email the
> ones whose emails I know, and pass your message on to them? I'll
> figure out a way to let those whose emails I don't have know, without
> adding to this creep's hits.
>
> cheers, jodi
>
> Jodi DeLong, MA
> ?Atlantic Canada?s Garden Writer?
> Member, Garden Writers Association (GWA)
> My online resume: www.bloomingwriter.ca
> My Gardening blog: bloomingwriter.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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