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Re: gardenwriters Digest, Vol 121, Issue 24
I agree with you, Jo Ellen -- common names of plants Âshould be lower case. But then we get sentences like this:
"Spring-flowering shrubs that may be pruned once bloom is completed include lilac ( Syringa spp.), pieris, daphne, azalea, rhododendron, spirea, forsythia, spring-flowering viburnum, weigela, flowering quince ( Chaenomeles spp.), red twig dogwood ( Cornus spp.) and deutzia."
Is this "right" or just more confusing?
Michelle Byrne Walsh
mbyrnew@comcast.net
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:52:35 -0500
From: "Daryl" <dp2413@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [GWL] Fruit trees for the South
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I've always liked Johnson Nursery, but the service this time just blew me
away. I ordered on Tuesday morning at 10:30, received an email from them
that they were packing the order a little after noon for shipping on
Wednesday. The box arrived Thursday afternoon! The plants are healthy and
very large. The blueberries are very well branched.
Daryl Pulis
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:14:30 -0600
From: Molly Day <mollyday1@gmail.com>
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Where is Johnson Nursery?
Is it this one?
http://www.johnsonsnursery.com/Home.aspx
Martha
http://www.allthedirtongardening.blogspot.com/
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Daryl <dp2413@comcast.net> wrote:
> I've always liked Johnson Nursery, but the service this time just blew me
> away. I ordered on Tuesday morning at 10:30, received an email from them
> that they were packing the order a little after noon for shipping on
> Wednesday. The box arrived Thursday afternoon! The plants are healthy and
> very large. The blueberries are very well branched.
>
>
> Daryl Pulis
> Manager, CompuServe/Netscape Gardening Forum
> (The oldest gardening forum on the web)
> http://community.netscape.com/gardening
>
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 19:49:41 -0500
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No, it's the one I mentioned before. ÂIt's in Ellijay, GA.
http://www.johnsonnursery.com/ Â Â ÂI guess the list doesn't support
hyperlinks.
d
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Where is Johnson Nursery?
Is it this one?
http://www.johnsonsnursery.com/Home.aspx
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 07:51:10 -0500
From: Jo Ellen Meyers Sharp <hoosiergardener@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [GWL] plant names
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I have a question about common names. Think print, in newspapers and magazines, most of which have an aversion to too much fancy stuff in text:
Should common names be capitalized, such as Lilac or Sweet Potato Vine? I say no, because these are not proper names.
Next, what if you are writing about Hosta or other plants, where the scientific and a common name are the same. Should all hosta, petunia, impatiens, etc., references as a common names be cap or cap and Italics or can they be lower case?
jems
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:52:57 +0000
From: Susan McCoy <susan@gardenmediagroup.com>
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I agree, Jo Ellen. No caps on common names unless it is actually part of the name. For example: The boy George vs Boy George. But an AP Stylebook expert can better direct us.
Susan McCoy
Garden Media Group
Office 610-444-3040
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On Feb 25, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Jo Ellen Meyers Sharp" <hoosiergardener@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have a question about common names. Think print, in newspapers and magazines, most of which have an aversion to too much fancy stuff in text:
>
> Should common names be capitalized, such as Lilac or Sweet Potato Vine? I say no, because these are not proper names.
>
> Next, what if you are writing about Hosta or other plants, where the scientific and a common name are the same. Should all hosta, petunia, impatiens, etc., references as a common names be cap or cap and Italics or can they be lower case?
>
>
> jems
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:07:49 -0500
From: Jo Ellen Meyers Sharp <hoosiergardener@sbcglobal.net>
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Thanks, Suzy. I have an AP style guide and common names would not be upper case, but so many garden writers and hort people use caps for common names and that's why I was trying to see what the thinking was.
jems
On Feb 25, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Susan McCoy wrote:
I agree, Jo Ellen. No caps on common names unless it is actually part of the name. For example: The boy George vs Boy George. But an AP Stylebook expert can better direct us.
Susan McCoy
Garden Media Group
Office 610-444-3040
Cell 610-220-8400
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Jo Ellen Meyers Sharp
Director, Garden Writers Association
hoosiergardener@sbcglobal.net
http://hoosiergardener.com
Phone: (317) 251.3261
P.O. Box 20310
Indianapolis, IN 46220-0310
Co-author, Indiana Gardener's Guide
Author, The Visitor's Guide to American Gardens
Great Garden Speakers
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:20:28 -0500
From: loisdan@juno.com
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ÂHi Jo Ellen,
I also find this issue very frustrating, but I don't have a rule to
offer. I usually work around the problem either by rewording the sentence
content or how I'm naming the plants, so that I can make them either all
uppercase or all lowercase. I find the uc/lc usage in the same sentence
annoying and distracting in someone else's writing because I then feel
compelled to try to figure out what rule THEY used!
Regards,
Lois
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:07:49 -0500 Jo Ellen Meyers Sharp
<hoosiergardener@sbcglobal.net> writes:
> Thanks, Suzy. I have an AP style guide and common names would not be
> upper case, but so many garden writers and hort people use caps for
> common names and that's why I was trying to see what the thinking
> was.
>
> jems
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 06:18:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Betty Mackey <bettymackey@verizon.net>
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Quick example of what I would do.
The hosta looks great at your place. (common name)
Lady X's garden contains rare Hosta cultivars.? (Botanical name even without the species name.)
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Thanks, Suzy. I have an AP style guide and common names would not be upper case, but so many garden writers and hort people use caps for common names and that's why I was trying to see what the thinking was.
jems
On Feb 25, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Susan McCoy wrote:
I agree, Jo Ellen. No caps on common names unless it is actually part of the name. For example: The boy George vs Boy George. But an AP Stylebook expert can better direct us.
Susan McCoy
Garden Media Group
Office 610-444-3040
Cell 610-220-8400
____________________
Jo Ellen Meyers Sharp
Director, Garden Writers Association
hoosiergardener@sbcglobal.net
http://hoosiergardener.com
Phone: (317) 251.3261
P.O. Box 20310
Indianapolis, IN 46220-0310
Co-author, Indiana Gardener's Guide
Author, The Visitor's Guide to American Gardens
Great Garden Speakers
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