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[GWL]: Editors making writers look foolish

I don't know about other publications, but the timeline moves pretty
darn fast in the final stages of our production. We do not have the
luxury of days to chase down all of the writers for our stories to
seek approval for final edits. Yes, we contact them with questions
and request clarifications while editing, but final approval? Uh uh.

Writers looking foolish? We strive for accuracy and hopefully
mistakes don't happen if we're all on our toes. But just add that
possibility to the list of negatives associated with being a writer.

Carla Allen
http://www.carlaallen.ca
~An East Coast Gardener~


> Pardon my antiquated term--galleys--, but I got my start in newspapers eons
> ago when there were galleys.  That's how I still see them, where they are
> page proofs, last edits or the paginated page.  I'm showing my age, but
> getting to check the final product is still the best insurance.
> Doreen Howard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graham Rice <garden@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: Gardenwriters@topica.com <Gardenwriters@topica.com>
> Date: Saturday, January 05, 2002 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [GWL]: Editors making writers look foolish
>
>
> Galleys? What a quaint suggestion!! Sorry Doreen, but I haven't seen
> a galley in years and years. These days The Garden scrupulously sends
> out page proofs (having emailed queries in advance), most other
> magazines will call or email with occasional queries, most (including
> my newspaper) edit and print the page without sending galleys, proofs
> or anything. And even The Garden does not send a second proof
> incorporating revisions.
>
> This is how some British mags are able to run on staffs small enough
> to get by on national circulations of 50,000 in a terrible
> advertising market. The Kitchen Garden, a superb monthly, is run on
> an editorial staff of two and a half, plus (I think) a half time
> secretary and a part time designer.
>
> I have taken the matter up with Gardens Illustrated (says he
> politely)... we shall see.
>
> Graham Rice
>
> >It's been my experience that I can catch these foolish or inaccurate
> >substitutions or additions in the galley copy, which is emailed to me for
> >approval.  I work with one editor regularly who has no horticulture
> >background.  She has never had dirt on her hands, either.  I insist that I
> >see the final edit, because she has made awful mistakes in the past, such
> as
> >labeling a calendula (Mexican Pot Marigold) as yellow marigold.  All it
> took
> >was one incident where she looked foolish and caught heat from her boss to
> >make her rely on my judgement.  I make it a point to ask for final approval
> >of the last edit, unless I'm working with an editor I truly trust.
> >
> >So.....Graham, you may be able to turn this situation into something
> >advantageous for yourself.  Just my 2 cents worth.
> >Doreen Howard
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Graham Rice <garden@tiscali.co.uk>
> >To: Gardenwriters@topica.com <Gardenwriters@topica.com>
> >Date: Saturday, January 05, 2002 6:41 AM
> >Subject: [GWL]: Editors making writers look foolish
> >
> >
> >>In the current issue of Gardens Illustrated I have a piece about
> >>hellebores. The copy says that H. orientalis 'is a tough perennial
> >>which is evergreen in Britain and the southern states of Texas, USA."
> >>Clearly this is nonsense, and I didn't write it, but there it is in
> >>the magazine. Texas wasn't even mentioned in my original copy,
> >>neither was this ludicrous phrase in the edtited version the magazine
> >>sent me - they just slipped it in at the last moment.
> >>
> >>On British magazines the standard of subbing varies wildly, how is it
> >>on American magazines?
> >>
> >>Graham Rice
> >>
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