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Re: [GWL]: Editors making writers look foolish

Pardon my antiquated term--galleys--, but I got my start in newspapers eons
ago when there were galleys.  That's how I still see them, where they are
page proofs, last edits or the paginated page.  I'm showing my age, but
getting to check the final product is still the best insurance.
Doreen Howard

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Rice <garden@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Gardenwriters@topica.com <Gardenwriters@topica.com>
Date: Saturday, January 05, 2002 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [GWL]: Editors making writers look foolish


Galleys? What a quaint suggestion!! Sorry Doreen, but I haven't seen
a galley in years and years. These days The Garden scrupulously sends
out page proofs (having emailed queries in advance), most other
magazines will call or email with occasional queries, most (including
my newspaper) edit and print the page without sending galleys, proofs
or anything. And even The Garden does not send a second proof
incorporating revisions.

This is how some British mags are able to run on staffs small enough
to get by on national circulations of 50,000 in a terrible
advertising market. The Kitchen Garden, a superb monthly, is run on
an editorial staff of two and a half, plus (I think) a half time
secretary and a part time designer.

I have taken the matter up with Gardens Illustrated (says he
politely)... we shall see.

Graham Rice

>It's been my experience that I can catch these foolish or inaccurate
>substitutions or additions in the galley copy, which is emailed to me for
>approval.  I work with one editor regularly who has no horticulture
>background.  She has never had dirt on her hands, either.  I insist that I
>see the final edit, because she has made awful mistakes in the past, such
as
>labeling a calendula (Mexican Pot Marigold) as yellow marigold.  All it
took
>was one incident where she looked foolish and caught heat from her boss to
>make her rely on my judgement.  I make it a point to ask for final approval
>of the last edit, unless I'm working with an editor I truly trust.
>
>So.....Graham, you may be able to turn this situation into something
>advantageous for yourself.  Just my 2 cents worth.
>Doreen Howard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Graham Rice <garden@tiscali.co.uk>
>To: Gardenwriters@topica.com <Gardenwriters@topica.com>
>Date: Saturday, January 05, 2002 6:41 AM
>Subject: [GWL]: Editors making writers look foolish
>
>
>>In the current issue of Gardens Illustrated I have a piece about
>>hellebores. The copy says that H. orientalis 'is a tough perennial
>>which is evergreen in Britain and the southern states of Texas, USA."
>>Clearly this is nonsense, and I didn't write it, but there it is in
>>the magazine. Texas wasn't even mentioned in my original copy,
>>neither was this ludicrous phrase in the edtited version the magazine
>>sent me - they just slipped it in at the last moment.
>>
>>On British magazines the standard of subbing varies wildly, how is it
>>on American magazines?
>>
>>Graham Rice
>>
>>http://grahamnrice.com
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