Re: Correct plant names
- Subject: Re: [GWL] Correct plant names
- From: Graham Rice g*@tiscali.co.uk
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:50:34 -0500
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That's a very interesting question. I get the sense (an earlier posting hinted at this) that it's partly the same attitude as instintively rebels against the Federal government legislating to cover the behaviour of individuals ("big government"). Some people simply do not take kindly to a central authority deciding anything; they'd rather use a local plant name than a botanical name agreed upon internationally - however confusing to everyone else. Perhaps this is simplistic (I am but a mere Brit tryting to fathom the American way of life) but there seems to be a hint of that in there somewhere.
There's also, perhaps, an element of anti-intellectualism, a kind of reverse snobbery which prevents people saying Lythrum salicaria; so they say say loosestrife instead (thereby, of course, causing confusion: purple loosestrife - Lythrum, or yellow loosestrife - Lysimachia?).
When I first started coming to the US and talked to keen gardeners, I know idea what they were talking about when they referred to plants, I'm learning a new language (and without good grace, I have to say!). No one used botanical names, they used common names which meant nothing to me. I'm still trying to get to grips with a vast lexicon of bewildering common names which, in most cases, do not even seem to be based on the names the native Americans used before the settlers came.
This is a fascinating discussion... exactly what this list is for.
Graham Rice
http://GrahamRice.com
Something I have never been able to grasp is why the use of botanical names is such an issue in the US. Why aren't they used as a matter of course here as they are in other countries? Why does it seem to be the policy of assorted publishers (primarily newsprint and magazines) to dumb down articles by either omitting the botanical name or putting it in parentheses after whichever common name they select for the plant? I know that one author of a regular column in the Washington Post was told by his editor NOT to use botanical names unless there was no other name for the plant. Anybody have any insight or opinions on this? Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland mtalt@hort.net Editor: Gardening in Shade ----------------------------------------------- Current Article: Wild, Wonderful Aroids Part 5 - Pinellia http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/shade_gardening ------------------------------------------------ Complete Index of Articles by Category and Date http://mtalt.hort.net/article-index.html ------------------------------------------------ All Suite101.com garden topics : http://www.suite101.com/topics.cfm/635 ----------From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@plantsoup.com>I think what is most important is to encourage readers and gardeners to use botanical names rather than common names. I don't care so much about the pronunciation as I do about accuracy. Gardeners often hesitate to use botanical names for fear of mispronunciation. My feeling is, if they emphasize the wrong syllable or get the vowels a bit out of order, that is far better than using the common name and confusing everyone. I'd rather they try than shy away from the Latin (or Greek or...). In addition, botanical names are such a treasure trove of information about a plant's heritage, that it adds another huge dimension to gardening. In the end, gardeners become more competent plants people, better communicators, and feel more confident about their skill if they feel confident about using botanical names, whether or not they are properly pronounced. Eventually, they will encounter someone who will (hopefully gently) correct them. _______________________________________________ gardenwriters mailing list gardenwriters@lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/gardenwriters GWL has searchable archives at: http://www.hort.net/lists/gardenwriters Send photos for GWL to gwlphotos@hort.net to be posted at: http://www.hort.net/lists/gwlphotos Post gardening questions/threads to "Organic-Gardening" <organic-gardening@lists.ibiblio.org> For GWL website and Wiki, go to http://www.ibiblio.org/gardenwriters
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