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Re: [GWL]: Recommending plant sources

To Jeff Ball

Thanks for your note about the deer problem.  Regarding gates.  I purchased
two  8 ft sections of fencing (8 x 8) and use them as halves of a gate.
Works well, and looks ok.

I was told by the expert for the U.S. Dept of Agriculture that deer can jump
high and they can jump wide, but they can't jump high AND wide.  Therefore
they suggested that fences not be erected straight up, but at an angle.  I
have done this, and it works as long as nothing is touching the fence.  It's
a lousy job to police the fence for falling branches and weeds.

The deer which are protected year round in my area are not afraid of
anything.  Even if you yell at them and wave your arms they look at you with
disdain.

Suzanne Pierot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Ball" <jeffball@starband.net>
To: <Gardenwriters@topica.com>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: [GWL]: Recommending plant sources


>
>
> Protecting 12 acres from deer should be an enormous and very difficult
task.
> In my work, I focus on the need to protect plants in an average home
> landscape, under one quarter acre.  In that application the 8 foot deer
> fence is seldom an option for aesthetic and access reasons.  Repellents
will
> work only if two or three different types are used on two to three week
> cycles, and that workload is generally more than most yardeners can stand.
> There is no such thing as a deer resistant plant if the deer are truly
> hungry.  That leaves three tools I think will work in most home landscape
> situations where you are trying to protect a limited area with vulnerable
> plants on the property.  The electric spikes just put out by Woodstream I
> think will work well if they are moved around frequently and if the
> attractant scent is maintained according to instructions.  The water
> spritzing ScareCrow device, now sold by Woodstream does work in most
> situations but also needs to be moved around.  Finally there is an
electric
> fence system called Fi-Shock (see http://www.fishock.com) that runs off
> regular batteries and is not shorted by weeds touching the wire.  This
> system works best if you do the training bit with the peanut butter on the
> end of streaming tin foil attached at 12 to 15 distances along the fence
> perimeter.  They have not come up with an easy way to build a gate, which
is
> a problem in my view for most people.
> That all gets us back to the electric stakes and the water spritzer as
being
> the best tools against deer on the market today; assuming we are living in
a
> home landscape that has occasional deer attacks.
> Not only are more and more communities being hit with deer problems and
> doing nothing to reduce the deer population, but more and more communities
> in Michigan and Penna a struggling with black bears invading the home
> landscape.  Now there is a challenge I don't even want to think about.
>
> Later,
>
> Jeff Ball
>
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