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Re: Zumbarizing/Bud Isolation

Ran Lydell wrote:
  so you can acomplish three things . better increase, more sports and larger average plants .
I'm not sure about the last one. I have not tried bud isolation, but when I have tried to use all of the other methods, the result was smaller average plants.  If you are trying to determine which bud breaks dormancy in the spring, it may not affect plant size, but I think most people trying these methods do it to have more buds break dormancy and my experience has been that although you get more plants, you get much smaller plants.  There is only so much food stored in the plant for spring growth and if you significantly increase the number of eyes breaking dormancy, I think you are likely to get smaller plants.  I know that the plants that Alex gets when he starts chopping up a plant are not very large.  If you are working with a plant that simply won't increase well naturally, then maybe it pays to start cutting, but if the plant increases normally, I have never been able to see the advantage.

Here's my arithmatic on all of these methods.  If I use these bud cutting methods, maybe I'll get ten plants in the spring, and all of them will be small, in my experience  very small.  When I have done this, it is usually the following year before I have a plant of decent size.  If I let the plant multiply naturally, if I get an increase of 3 per year, which certainly isn't hard to get in most varieties, and I divide the plant and let it increase again the next year, I have 9 full size divisions in two years.  Since it has always taken me two years to get a decent size plant from bud cuttings, I don't see much advantage.

I must admit that I haven't done much of this, so I may not have seen good results that others have had.  


Ran Lydell wrote:
  so you can acomplish three things . better increase, more sports and larger average plants .
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: Zumbarizing

In a message dated 8/22/2002 10:22:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ranbl@netsync.net writes:

There are four methods used for crown divison/multiplication.  They are Bud Cuttings (Alex Summers method)  Rossizing, ( the method introduced by Henery Ross)  Zumberizing, (Bill Zumbar)  and Bud Isolation , ( Ran Lydell's method.)

Good morning, all:

Thank you Ran for the description of each method.  I realized that I have been doing Rossing/Zumbarizing wrong all these years.  I have been dividing the bud by removing a leaf; pushing the sharp knife through the bud; and continuing down through the basal plate.  This explains why the next spring the hosta do not multiply.  The 'method' I was using must have been killing the dormant bud for the following year's growth...a big duhhhh!!!!!!!!


Rich Horowitz
Stoughton MA

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