RE: hosta-open DIGEST V1 #678
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- From: R* D* M*
- Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:37:34 -0500
During the hollydays I watched a good program.
Shown on HGTV last wednesday, Canadian Gardening, had a visit at a house
belonging to Mr. Gibson in the Toronto area.
The masterpiece of his garden was the shade plants. He has a broad variety
of hostas and most of them mature. A good 10 to 15 minutes of good
pictures.
This show will be repeited during the next days. Worth to be watched.
Reggie D.
Montreal, Canada
Happy New Year to all hosta fans.
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Objet: hosta-open DIGEST V1 #678
hosta-open DIGEST Saturday, January 1 2000 Volume 01 : Number 678
In this issue:
chatroom
Re: [nise] chatroom
Re: Phoenix and lists
Re: new kid on the block
Re: new kid on the block
http://go.chatspace.com/105-0196-058
Re: Garden Addictions ...
Re: Phoenix and lists
Re: new kid on the block
Re: Phoenix and lists
Re: garden tags
Re: Phoenix and lists..now Excel/MSWorks
Re: Lancifolia
Re: garden tags
Re: Lancifolia
Re: garden tags
Re: garden tags
Re: garden tags
Re: garden tags
Re: garden tags
Re: garden tags
Re: garden tags
Re: Phoenix and lists..now Excel/MSWorks
Kuks catalog
Re: garden tags
Re: Chat Room
chat room
Re: Do All Stable Variegated Seedlings Start As Splashed?
New Year's chat
Hosta-Open made it through y2k
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 12:54:47 -0800
From: Bob <bobaxe@sbtek.net>
Subject: chatroom
Hi everyone
I am having trouble getting to the chatroom now. I will be working on
this in the next few days mostly trying to figure out how it is set up
for sure.
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Bye
Bob
Bob Axmear 208 2nd St Ne Waukon,Ia 52172-1308
http://www.hostasonline.com/ Hostasonline.com
http://www.gardensights.com GARDENSIGHTS.COM
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:00:39 -0800
From: Bob <bobaxe@sbtek.net>
Subject: Re: [nise] chatroom
TOWNSHIP wrote:
>
> From: "TOWNSHIP" <township@acbm.qc.ca>
>
> Hi Bob
> Just tried accessing the chat room....no go! And I'm really in the mood
to
> gab...
Hi Barbara and everyone
I think these problems seem to be larger than normal. I am sure after
the y2k glitches pass we can get this up and running. I am not going to
worry about it too much more today.
- --
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Bob
Bob Axmear 208 2nd St Ne Waukon,Ia 52172-1308
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:16:01 -0600
From: "Hank Zumach" <zumach@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Phoenix and lists
Hi Narda,
I have had great success with the metal markers a lot a catalogs sell for
about .25 each when you buy a quantity. If your unsure of my description
let
me know. I then use a "Dymo hobbyist 1895" tape writer using 1/4" black
tape. Some of my labels go back to 1993 and show no signs of failing. For
short term periods of a year or so, try using the mini blind slats with a
"Sharpie industrial " pen, item no.13601.
Hank Zumach
Stoddard, WI
zone 4
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From: <NardaA@aol.com>
To: <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: Phoenix and lists
> In a message dated 12/30/99 11:48:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Cidjohnson@aol.com writes:
>
> << Oh boy, do I need
> that theraputic time of diggin in the dirt, or what??
> >>
> Cindy, the biggest problem with the markers is that the permanent marker
that
> I formerly used would just disappear. Now I do try to use two different
> types of markers and if I can I try to bury a tag in the hole so if worst
> comes to worst then I can dig it up to see what it is.
>
> Left brained people tend to be very organized, sequential and logical in
> their thinking, my husband is one of those. Although logical, sometimes
no
> common sense. He just put our projected finances on a spread sheet month
by
> month for the year 2000. He always does this every year. Takes a whole
day
> when he could be doing laundry, dusting, vacuuming or getting rid of the
> Christmas spirt in this house.
>
> I just pray that my children will be more whole brained, although with
the
> oldest it doesn't look like it is going to happen, you know the apple
doesn't
> fall far from the tree.
>
> All three of them encourage me in my gardening, but they still see hostas
as
> boring plants, green or green with a white edge.
>
> Narda
>
> As to diggin in the dirt, I am finding that growing hosta seeds is very
> interesting. And if it is fifty degrees here tomorrow as predicted I
will
be
> diggin in the dirt.
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:21:35 -0600
From: "Hank Zumach" <zumach@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: new kid on the block
Slugs have not been a particular problem with my lancifolias and I have
one
row of about 60 ft. of them. I wonder why? Do my slugs have a more
discerning palate?
Hank Zumach
Stoddard, WI
zone 4
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From: Ransom Lydell <ranbl@netsync.net>
To: <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: new kid on the block
>
> >Ah...lancifolia, I still look on mine with fondness,
> >
> >Later,
> >Narda
>
> >Narda
> I always reccommend "looking on lancifolia with fondness" early in the
> season, as they soon become a "fond memory" (Slugsyouknow!)
> Ran
> >
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:26:13 -0500
From: John Lanier <jlanier@yancey.main.nc.us>
Subject: Re: new kid on the block
See there Ran, and I didn't even have to say anything! As I have often
heard you say, various hostas perform differently even in different
gardens, much less half way across the country. On the other hand, I
would truly welcome a new hosta, any new hosta, that was totally lacking
of maintenance needs of any kind. While the new ones are great, though,
I have a special fondness of MANY of the old ones, deficient as they
well may be (in some gardens), and even if they need much maintenance. I
just like them, and I want to continue to grow them. When we lived in
Minnesota (30 years) we had absolutely the most spectacular borders of
Lancifolia around everything. I don't ever recall seeing slug damage on
them there, and the sight of hundreds of feet of them in bloom is one I
will never forget. As for the slug bait, when we see evidence of slugs
beginning here in the Mountains of North Carolina, where it is a much
damper environment than Minnesota, we begin to use a granular bait
(can't remember the name) because we don't want the dog to get tempted
to eat the pellets. This bait, by the way, is needed here much more to
keep slug damage to a minimum on Daylily blooms, than on the hostas.
Hope everybody has a good New Year.
John Lanier
NardaA@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/30/99 11:29:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> ranbl@netsync.net writes:
> >Ah...lancifolia, I still look on mine with fondness,
> >
> >Later,
> >Narda
>
> >Narda
> I always recommend "looking on lancifolia with fondness" early in the
> season, as they soon become a "fond memory" (Slugsyouknow!)
> Ran
> > >>
>
> Ran, as you are the hosta man with the expertise, I beg to differ with
you
> sir. My lancifolia looked great almost all last summer even though it
was
> not on my watering list and suffered from the drought. As for slugs, did
you
> know that they make little pellets that you can put down to just do away
with
> the things(heheheheeh). Narda
MissVitro Plant Tissue Culture Laboratory
John and Laura Lanier
Route 9 Box 908
Burnsville, NC 28714
(828) 682-4174
j*@yancey.main.nc.us
http://www.gardensights.com/MissVitro/
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:35:12 -0800
From: Bob <bobaxe@sbtek.net>
Subject: http://go.chatspace.com/105-0196-058
http://go.chatspace.com/105-0196-058
The chatroom seems to be working again but for today at least you are
on your own.
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Bob
Bob Axmear 208 2nd St Ne Waukon,Ia 52172-1308
http://www.hostasonline.com/ Hostasonline.com
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 13:45:41 -0600
From: Betsy Mahtani <bmathani@flash.net>
Subject: Re: Garden Addictions ...
Fortunately, or unfortunately, I have 2+ acres, about half wooded, so I
have PLENTY of room to expand. Had to retire to have the time, and now
have MAJOR landscaping projects, which I do all myself. My wonderful
husband does help me with the really heavy railroad ties, and he does
the chainsawing, PLUS, and a really big plus, he'll do extra
housekeeping and half the cooking so I can garden. I can identify with
all the excesses gardenwise that have been mentioned, I just don't have
as much knowledge as a lot of you--I'm not a beginner, but am learning A
LOT through this forum!
Thank you ALL, and Happy New Year--Happy Gardening!!
Betsy
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:45:20 EST
From: Meum71@aol.com
Subject: Re: Phoenix and lists
In a message dated 12/31/1999 7:21:18 AM Central Standard Time,
NardaA@aol.com writes:
<< < which was basically drawing what we SEE, not what we THINK we
see.. >>
This is an oxymoron!
Paul
>>
Sorry to tell you this Paul, you might be right about lancifolia but you
are
wrong on this one.
Narda >>
This is all in fun.
But tell me how one would see something without "thinking" about it.
As much as I still know the eyes are connected to the brain.
I did understand the very valid concept of painting from sight and not
memory.
I am not questioning/jesting the painting advise, just the expression of
words used.
Paul
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 14:06:54 -0600
From: "Hank Zumach" <zumach@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: new kid on the block
Hi Gerry,
HMMM. Maybe when your half acre is covered you could consider all that
wasted space inside your house. I understand that growing hostas inside in
containers is done extensively in Japan. I'm sure that if you started out
with just one good clump of, oh let's say lancifolia, in no time at all you
could have a lovely terrarium look in every room!!!!
Hank Zumach
Stoddard, WI
zone 4
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From: Gerry/Bob O'Neill <eoneill@ibm.net>
To: <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: new kid on the block
> Welcome, Hank!
>
> Fortunately, I only have a half-acre to garden on (and the house takes up
> 10% or so of that), so my addiction can't get too far out of control.
;-)
> Lessee, how many hostas can you squeeze into a half acre? Fortunately
(?)
> here in the South, I lose them often enough to have to buy replacements
> (Yea!). And would you believe I don't have lancifolia?
>
> Congratulations on your de-lurking,
> Gerry
>
> At 04:24 PM 12/30/99 -0600, you wrote:
>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:48:39 EST
From: NardaA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Phoenix and lists
In a message dated 12/31/99 2:51:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Meum71@aol.com
writes:
<< But tell me how one would see something without "thinking" about it.
>>
Paul, I do it all the time. I hear without thinking about it too. Smell,
touch taste, etc. The point is that drawing is mostly a process of
observing
or studying. It is done with the eyes and the brain more than with the
pencil. It is a skill that anyone can learn with careful observation and
practice.
People draw a preconceived image often without observing and that is when
hay
discover that they are not really good at it. However, it is also true
that
we are talking about a realistic approach to drawing. And aesthetics is a
big part of what we are talking about and I don't feel like going there
right
now.
I go around all day long everyday saying "what is the most important thing
that we do in art?" , the kids know the answer is thinking with our brains.
Take care,
Narda
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 16:10:44 EST
From: Cidjohnson@aol.com
Subject: Re: garden tags
Hi everyone,
I've completely lost track of who said the following...
<< > >you can also use some scrap vinyl siding and cut it into strips then
cut
>to length..... > >>
but I'd like to know if this stuff holds up better than the nursery tags
that
often come with plants that get brittle in cold weather and break into
pieces
if they are bumped.
Alot of my cheap markers are from white Venetian blinds and I'd have to say
they look like a bunch of little gravestones all over the garden, so if you
have a choice, get a different color than white. They have held up good,
for
the past 2 years anyway, but unfortunately I believed "permanent" markers
were just that, and there are now 1 or 2 that I can't read so I don't know
which hosta it is for sure...errrrr. I'll try to hunt down some of those
nursery markers others have mentioned....or maybe the uni-Paint marker if I
can't find those.
Thanks for all the good feedback!
Cindy Johnson
White Bear Lake, MN
zone 4a
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 16:35:58 EST
From: Cidjohnson@aol.com
Subject: Re: Phoenix and lists..now Excel/MSWorks
In a message dated 12/30/99 9:45:27 PM Central Standard Time,
eoneill@ibm.net
writes:
<< I also have my hosta database on
MSWorks. Would prefer Excel, but don't wanna pop the big bucks for it. >>
Hi Gerry,
Why would you prefer Excel? Excel is what I'm using now for my
spreadsheets,
and I thought the reporting capabilities, and the FORM view (for easier
data
entry) that MSWorks offers would be nicer. But then, I don't know about
all
the things one can do in Excel either. Maybe I shouldn't be too hasty
about
converting all my data over to MSWorks database yet.
Cindy Johnson
White Bear Lake, MN
zone 4a
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:31:20 -0500
From: Diane <trueblue@micron.net>
Subject: Re: Lancifolia
Ray W wrote:
>
> Diane,
>
> if I knew you needed lancifolia, I could have given you a ton.
>
> Ray
>
Well, I didn't know you 5 years ago, and it wouldn't have been my Mom's
Hosta - I ended up calling the people who bought her house and asked if
I could have some of it. They gave me plenty. Now I really have Mom's
Hosta!! It worked out perfectly, in the end. My search made me realize
my dream of hostaholism! :)
Diane
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:31:24 -0500
From: braggs <braggs@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: garden tags
Cidjohnson@aol.com wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've completely lost track of who said the following...
>
> << > >you can also use some scrap vinyl siding and cut it into strips
then cut
> >to length..... > >>
>
> but I'd like to know if this stuff holds up better than the nursery tags
that
> often come with plants that get brittle in cold weather and break into
pieces
> if they are bumped.
>
It holds up on houses.....you can also cut it into smaller pieces and get
some
aluminum closeline or coated wire and bend loop in it then put a hole in
the tag
and attach it and make the wire what ever height you like. just a
thought........
dan
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:48:29 -0500
From: Ray W <wie1086@oh.verio.com>
Subject: Re: Lancifolia
Ran,
believe it or not, I have a neighbor that just might have the largest crop
of lancifolia that you ever seen. She must have been dividing it for at
least a decade and a half (maybe more). Front yard, backyard, in pots at
the
gateway, along the walkway. Probably the best display of lancifolia in the
county. Every year or so, she comes up with a little excess and gives to
Julies mother. I must concoct a plan as she needs no more(Julies Mom). Is
there a Dear Abby of Hostadom?
Ray
Ransom Lydell wrote:
> At 10:05 AM 12/31/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> >Diane,
> >
> >if I knew you needed lancifolia, I could have given you a ton.
> >
> >Ray
> >
> ***************
> Well Ray
> That brought the mathimatition (spelling?) in me (there's not a lot of
> that) What would one lancifolia weigh---Well better define size , let's
> say average two divisions----wait!--- -=----Had to go weigh something.
> It takes 11 of them to make a pound! Let's see--- so 100 LB. would be
> 1,100 plants , and half a ton would be ah (biting my lower lip) a--a --
> a- 11,000 plants!! (double division that is) WHOA !!! we are takling
> 22,000 plants (double division) How many acres do you farm????????????/
> Happy New Melinnium (spelling?) everyone!
> Ran
> >
> >
>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 16:51:23 -0600
From: "Kate Ardissono" <sunkat@netnitco.net>
Subject: Re: garden tags
Anyone who wants we are on the Chat line... I'm trying to get a vote for
Bob
as President of the Internet Hosta Society... Come join us
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From: braggs <braggs@mediaone.net>
To: hosta-open@mallorn.com <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: garden tags
>
>
>Cidjohnson@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've completely lost track of who said the following...
>>
>> << > >you can also use some scrap vinyl siding and cut it into strips
then cut
>> >to length..... > >>
>>
>> but I'd like to know if this stuff holds up better than the nursery tags
that
>> often come with plants that get brittle in cold weather and break into
pieces
>> if they are bumped.
>>
>
>It holds up on houses.....you can also cut it into smaller pieces and get
some
>aluminum closeline or coated wire and bend loop in it then put a hole in
the tag
>and attach it and make the wire what ever height you like. just a
thought........
>dan
>
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:49:54 EST
From: EntICE11@aol.com
Subject: Re: garden tags
Indianabob,
Mellingers sells the plain white plastic Plant tags as do a lot of garden
places on the web...like Park Seeds.
If we can get them cheaper any other place could somebody please tell me?
I know I would like some. Maybe even the good ones with all the
discriptions
of the hostas...
Paula
Blaine,Mn
Zone 4
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:53:51 -0500
From: Ray W <wie1086@oh.verio.com>
Subject: Re: garden tags
indianabob,
I have one, on it is written
A.M. Leonard, Inc.
NURSERY MARKING PEN
Horticultural Supplies
Piqua, Ohio 45356
1-800-543-8955
This pen works "real" good. It dries instantly on the smoothest plastic.
Ray
indianabob wrote:
> At 10:34 AM 12/31/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> >Use white PVC tubing, lasts manymany years and a NURSERY marker, not a
> >permanent marking pen. The ink needs to be weather and sun resistant.
> >
> >you can also use some scrap vinyl siding and cut it into strips then cut
> >to length.....
> >
> >dan
> >who sells nursery markers?.......indianabob
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 16:57:58 -0800
From: Bob <bobaxe@sbtek.net>
Subject: Re: garden tags
Kate Ardissono wrote:
>
> Anyone who wants we are on the Chat line... I'm trying to get a vote for
Bob
> as President of the Internet Hosta Society... Come join us
No way
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:10:19 -0400
From: Patty Woodbury <saluki13@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: garden tags
HI,Kate-
just going out-but Bob sure has my vote!
Patty Woodbury
<saluki13@mediaone.net>
http://members.tripod.com/saluki13/index.html
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 18:11:22 EST
From: Meum71@aol.com
Subject: Re: garden tags
In a message dated 12/31/1999 4:52:02 PM Central Standard Time,
EntICE11@aol.com writes:
<< Mellingers sells the plain white plastic Plant tags as do a lot of
garden
places on the web...like Park Seeds.
If we can get them cheaper any other place could somebody please tell me?
I know I would like some. Maybe even the good ones with all the
discriptions
of the hostas...
Paula >>
Paula check with me in the spring- I can get you tags and cheeper than
those
at Mellingers. also a good nursery pen. I do not have prices yet- Have to
find the supply book
Paul
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:19:25 -0600
From: "Kate Ardissono" <sunkat@netnitco.net>
Subject: Re: garden tags
AW Bob... It's only a title. something to show you how we appreciate you
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From: Bob <bobaxe@sbtek.net>
To: hosta-open@mallorn.com <hosta-open@mallorn.com>
Date: Friday, December 31, 1999 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: garden tags
>Kate Ardissono wrote:
>>
>> Anyone who wants we are on the Chat line... I'm trying to get a vote for
Bob
>> as President of the Internet Hosta Society... Come join us
>
>No way
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:03:07 -0500
From: Ray W <wie1086@oh.verio.com>
Subject: Re: Phoenix and lists..now Excel/MSWorks
I wonder the same thing Cindy. I have my list set-up in Clarisworks (Apple
version of MSWorks). I can organize my data any way I like at the click of
a
button (by name , originator, value, ect.)
Ray
Cidjohnson@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 12/30/99 9:45:27 PM Central Standard Time,
eoneill@ibm.net
> writes:
>
> << I also have my hosta database on
> MSWorks. Would prefer Excel, but don't wanna pop the big bucks for it.
>>
>
> Hi Gerry,
> Why would you prefer Excel? Excel is what I'm using now for my
spreadsheets,
> and I thought the reporting capabilities, and the FORM view (for easier
data
> entry) that MSWorks offers would be nicer. But then, I don't know about
all
> the things one can do in Excel either. Maybe I shouldn't be too hasty
about
> converting all my data over to MSWorks database yet.
>
> Cindy Johnson
> White Bear Lake, MN
> zone 4a
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:15:20 -0500
From: Ray W <wie1086@oh.verio.com>
Subject: Kuks catalog
Hi all,
I have been working on Kuk's Forest catalog. It should be going to the
printer next week.
If you are not on his mailing list , and would like to be.....E me
privately,
Ray
Note: No financial gain for me--just helping a friend
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:17:17 EST
From: EntICE11@aol.com
Subject: Re: garden tags
Note to self...
See Paul for tags, and markers, and all kinds of new hostas....
Paul,
Have you had a minute or three for updating your web site yet??
With all you are going to get in the spring?
Not trying to be pushy...just so darn excited for spring.
I have to hurry up and get back to work. Need to start making money for
spring.
Surgery went ok...hope i can get all my shoulder movement back.
Paula
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:29:04 -0800
From: Bob <bobaxe@sbtek.net>
Subject: Re: Chat Room
Hi everyone
I loaded the chat program on the server. Now anyone who wants a copy
can donload it. This way someone smarter than me can figure it out and
say where we go from here with it. Then I can hook it up to the library.
http://www.hostasonline.com/chatsac.zip
Bye
Bob
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 20:59:57 -0500
From: "Daniel Nelson" <sussextreeinc@ce.net>
Subject: chat room
The chat room in up.
Dan Nelson
Bridgeville DE
zone 7
SussexTreeInc@ce.net
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 21:36:29 EST
From: LakesideRM@aol.com
Subject: Re: Do All Stable Variegated Seedlings Start As Splashed?
Ray from what I have observed there may be about one out of a hundred that
comes up variegated with first being streaked. Others may have different
results.
Mary
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 22:29:17 -0500
From: "Gerry/Bob O'Neill" <eoneill@ibm.net>
Subject: New Year's chat
Bob, You're a genius! This will be great fun!
Gerry
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:29:02 -0500
From: "Daniel Nelson" <sussextreeinc@ce.net>
Subject: Hosta-Open made it through y2k
Happy New Year!
Dan Nelson
Bridgeville DE
zone 7
SussexTreeInc@ce.net
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