RE: Breeder Hostas

Bob,

As some additional information to what Ran posted, here are some progeny
of H. 'Beatrice' to give you an idea of how many hostas can trace their
roots back to H. 'Beatrice':

H. `Bold Edger' from H. `Beatrice' x H. `Frances Williams'
H. `Breeder's Choice' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid (Vaughn No. 73-2)  x H.
`Frances Williams'
H. `Carnival' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid x H. `Frances Williams' hybrid
H. `Celebrity' from H. `Beatrice' F6 x H. `Frances Williams'
H. `Christmas Tree' from H. `Frances Williams' x H. `Beatrice'
H. `El Capitan' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid
H. `Galaxy' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid x H. `Frances Williams' hybrid
H. `Golden Fountain' from H. `Beatrice' x H. `Green Fountain'
H. 'High Fat Cream' from H. 'Beatrice' (or seedling) x H. sieboldiana
gold type
H. `Mistress Mable' from (H. `Beatrice' F6 x H. `Blue Moon') x H.
planteginea
H. `Noel' from H. `Beatrice' mutation
H. 'Resonance' from H. 'Beatrice' (or seedling) x H. sieboldiana gold
type
H. `Starburst' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid
H. `Temple Bells' from H. `Beatrice' seedling
H. `Top Banana' from H. `Beatrice' x H. `Frances Williams'
H. `Valencia' from H. `Beatrice' x H. `Iron Gate Delight'
H. 'Vaughn 73-2' from H. 'Beatrice' x H. 'Beatrice'
H. `White Dove' from H. `Beatrice' selfed
H. `White Swan' from H. `Beatrice' selfed
H. 'Yellow Splash' from H. 'Beatrice' (or seedling) x H. sieboldiana
gold type

Note some of the prominent breeders listed above like:

H. 'Breeder's Choice' 
H. 'Christmas Tree' (and its streaked version H. 'Christmas Tree Gala')
H. 'Galaxy'
H. 'High Fat Cream'
H. 'Yellow Splash'

And the breeders from these:

H. 'William Lachman' from H. 'Breeder's Choice'
H. 'Neat Splash' from H. 'Yellow Splash'

Like Ran said, most hybridizers aren't using H. 'Beatrice' directly but
I bet most are using at least some of its decendents in one way or
another.

Thanks!

Norm Lesch
Manchester, MD



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>From: 	RL[SMTP:ranbl@netsync.net]
>Sent: 	Tuesday, October 13, 1998 4:28 AM
>To: 	hosta-open@mallorn.com
>Subject: 	Re: Breeder Hostas
>
>Bob Axmear wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone
>>         I was looking in the Hosta Finder for Beatrice and noticed there is
>> Beatrice and Beatrice Breeder. Would someone explain the difference
>> please? Also aren't hostas such as Christmas Tree Gala, Breeder's
>> Choice, Pin Stripe Sister, Galaxy, etc. good to use or just not as good
>> as Beatrice.
>> Thanks
>> Bob
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>Bob
>I will try to give a simple answer to a complicated question.  Beatrice, 
>like most Streaked Hostas, will often "go to a non streaked but 
>variegated form".  Only the streaked form is likely to produce variegated 
>"offspring".  This is also true of most "Breeders".  In the long run 
>though, most hybridizers, devlope their own "Breeders", which embody the 
>genitic traits, that individual is striving for in his "program".  The 
>"best Breeders" an individual has , are seldom "shared" widly, until a 
>lot of "offspring have been grown and tested. I doubt , by the way, that 
>you will fimd many today who are seriously using Beatrice, as a mainstay 
>in their hybridizing program.
>
>Ran
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