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Re: Breeder Hostas


Does H. 'Christmas Tree' tend to have naturally variegated seedlings occasionally?
I have heard that some but very few hostas do this on occasion.

Mike Groothuis
Niles, MI
zone 5b (cold today!)

Lesch, Norman A. wrote:

> Bob,
>
> As some additional information to what Ran posted, here are some progeny
> of H. 'Beatrice' to give you an idea of how many hostas can trace their
> roots back to H. 'Beatrice':
>
> H. `Bold Edger' from H. `Beatrice' x H. `Frances Williams'
> H. `Breeder's Choice' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid (Vaughn No. 73-2)  x H.
> `Frances Williams'
> H. `Carnival' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid x H. `Frances Williams' hybrid
> H. `Celebrity' from H. `Beatrice' F6 x H. `Frances Williams'
> H. `Christmas Tree' from H. `Frances Williams' x H. `Beatrice'
> H. `El Capitan' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid
> H. `Galaxy' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid x H. `Frances Williams' hybrid
> H. `Golden Fountain' from H. `Beatrice' x H. `Green Fountain'
> H. 'High Fat Cream' from H. 'Beatrice' (or seedling) x H. sieboldiana
> gold type
> H. `Mistress Mable' from (H. `Beatrice' F6 x H. `Blue Moon') x H.
> planteginea
> H. `Noel' from H. `Beatrice' mutation
> H. 'Resonance' from H. 'Beatrice' (or seedling) x H. sieboldiana gold
> type
> H. `Starburst' from H. `Beatrice' hybrid
> H. `Temple Bells' from H. `Beatrice' seedling
> H. `Top Banana' from H. `Beatrice' x H. `Frances Williams'
> H. `Valencia' from H. `Beatrice' x H. `Iron Gate Delight'
> H. 'Vaughn 73-2' from H. 'Beatrice' x H. 'Beatrice'
> H. `White Dove' from H. `Beatrice' selfed
> H. `White Swan' from H. `Beatrice' selfed
> H. 'Yellow Splash' from H. 'Beatrice' (or seedling) x H. sieboldiana
> gold type
>
> Note some of the prominent breeders listed above like:
>
> H. 'Breeder's Choice'
> H. 'Christmas Tree' (and its streaked version H. 'Christmas Tree Gala')
> H. 'Galaxy'
> H. 'High Fat Cream'
> H. 'Yellow Splash'
>
> And the breeders from these:
>
> H. 'William Lachman' from H. 'Breeder's Choice'
> H. 'Neat Splash' from H. 'Yellow Splash'
>
> Like Ran said, most hybridizers aren't using H. 'Beatrice' directly but
> I bet most are using at least some of its decendents in one way or
> another.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Norm Lesch
> Manchester, MD
>
> >----------
> >From:  RL[SMTP:ranbl@netsync.net]
> >Sent:  Tuesday, October 13, 1998 4:28 AM
> >To:    hosta-open@mallorn.com
> >Subject:       Re: Breeder Hostas
> >
> >Bob Axmear wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello everyone
> >>         I was looking in the Hosta Finder for Beatrice and noticed there is
> >> Beatrice and Beatrice Breeder. Would someone explain the difference
> >> please? Also aren't hostas such as Christmas Tree Gala, Breeder's
> >> Choice, Pin Stripe Sister, Galaxy, etc. good to use or just not as good
> >> as Beatrice.
> >> Thanks
> >> Bob
> >> --
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> >Bob
> >I will try to give a simple answer to a complicated question.  Beatrice,
> >like most Streaked Hostas, will often "go to a non streaked but
> >variegated form".  Only the streaked form is likely to produce variegated
> >"offspring".  This is also true of most "Breeders".  In the long run
> >though, most hybridizers, devlope their own "Breeders", which embody the
> >genitic traits, that individual is striving for in his "program".  The
> >"best Breeders" an individual has , are seldom "shared" widly, until a
> >lot of "offspring have been grown and tested. I doubt , by the way, that
> >you will fimd many today who are seriously using Beatrice, as a mainstay
> >in their hybridizing program.
> >
> >Ran
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