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RE: Pruning- Ancestor roses-Propagation


[regarding Fragrant Cloud]
It's my understanding that most hybrid teas are difficult to
propagate. I have only tryed old or own-root roses cuttings. My first
success (about 5 years ago) was a stick about 12 inches long and the
thickness of a pencil. My mother brought it too me, in the early fall
I think. She told me to put it in the dirt, laying it horizontallly
and cover the whole thing about 3 or 4 inch of dirt. I though she was
nuts. But next spring I had all kinds of little canes a coming off of
it. 

My aunt started my great grandma Sophie's grave rose. She just put
10-12 inch early fall cuttings in a jar of plain water and placed it
in a cool dark place. In spring, she potted those that rooted. She
has a 9 year old rose bush from it, my mother's is 7 years old, Mine
is just 2 years old. Plus the original roses that is on the grave and
about 91 years old. Eek, that is old. It has struggle to say alive.
My aunt took cuttings as she thought it might die. They have since
taken over the very old cemetery and the charming rose is now
thriving under huge Fir trees. They have fought off nearby developers
and changed laws to protect cemeteries. (We call it the Sophie Rose.)

Great grandma Sophie was given this rose just two years before she
died (I'm told) as a gift for the death of her two year old son that
rests at her feet. She was only 37 years old with 9 children and died
with child. My grandfather was the youngest, 2 and was then raised by
his father's cousin. Most of the children were "farmed out".

Anyone else try propagating roses like these ?
Perhaps I should try some of their methods. Lot less hassle.
What methods have you tryed Ray ?
Do you have more than one Fragrant Cloud ?
I think I would want many just incase.

I do have one cutting (trimming) that I just couldn't pitch, so I
stuffed it into the ground, top up and nothing  covering it. I think
it might be taking. It's been in the ground a month and 1/2. 

Sincerely,       
Carleen Rosenlund of Rainier, Oregon -USDA-8
Sweetbriar - Keeper of Sheep & Old Roses
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> From: Ray Cooper <raycooper@xtra.co.nz>
> To: rose-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: Pruning- Ancestor roses
> Date: Sunday, July 26, 1998 11:08 PM

> That was the amazing thing about this special rose. One cutting,
one
> chance and it worked. Remember I am a beginner, but every person I
have
> talked to says this type of rose is fairly difficult to grow this
way.
> Ray



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