> > > >Simplicity Roses > >to put along a five foot high chain link fence to cover it up and give me > >some privacy from the street traffic. > How about Carefree Beauty gets about 10x10 feet here in florida so if you consider in your zone half that size you would be at a good height. and they are carefree even here .Or Carefree Wonder is another good one. In my opinion either one of these have Simplicity beat although Simplicity is a good rose it doesn't grow tall in zone 5 or 6 I grew it in Ohio as a walk way edging and it was good but not tall. Joyce Dillon jdillon@gate.net http://www.gate.net/~jdillon/ ICQ 5609261