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OGR's and grafted roses





Listen, there's a reason why the OGRs are still around!  I'm telling you,
the hybrids are OK if you have the time/money/patience/luck, but for my
money and lazy bones, I can't beat the older varieties for their ease of
care and longevity.  I tend to shy away from the grafted roses if I can,
but with the older varieties, I find that they are generally grown on their
own roots because they are mostly very hardy/vigorous growers.

Question to the group:  can someone tell me where to find a rose called
"Dr. Van Fleet"?  Also, I'm going to buy "Cardinel de Richelieu".  Does
anyone have experience growing this particular rose?  Any hints to a
gardener in zone 5/6?  I love the burgundy-colored flowers!

Thanks as always to the group!
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