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Re: [SANS] Moonshine

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>Um, I hate to disagree but I am sure that we are talking about more than one
>variety.  I have three silver trifasciata cultivars.  'Silver queen' is the
>tall one with foliage the same shape and size as normal trifasciata.
 Hermine says, yes, i agree.

 As I
>recall, it will come true from rooted leaves and not revert.


 My 'silver queen, comes from two different introductions, one will come
true from leaves and the other will not. outwardly they look the same. I
have no explanation.
> silver moon' came from Mobile Gardens in the late 70's and is the same as
>'moonshine' with shorter wider leaves very similar in shape to 'futura'.

OK, I got from mobile gardens a thing called platinum princess, Orig. label
buried in pot, written in PENCIL not in those fading magic markers, and it
is today what is called by some in Southern california, futura silver.
wide, vase shaped plant with wide fat leaves, pure creamy jade-silver.
this is also called moonshine in some nurseries.
>'Futura is the variety with short wide regular banded leaves with a narrow
>gold edge.
exactly so. Regular futura as it was known when it was around in mid 70's
or so.

 The form of variegation on Sansevierias with just a narrow gold
>edge is called a gild edge.  Rooted leaves of 'futura' will revert to a
>variety with the same shape but with out the gilt edge.  I think this
>variety is called 'Austrian hybrid'.

Austrian hybrid was sold to me by Loyce Andrews in texas in early 70's. she
had many Hoyas, and a few sansevierias. what i got from her under tht name
is a kind of bigger than ordinary green hahnii plant, like green hahnii on
its way to a solid green futura. she had originally spelled it variously
also as Australian hybrid.

 Of course, 'futura' and 'Austrian
>hybrid' are not silver varieties but there is a third silver variety.  Again
>I got it from Mobile Gardens, called 'silver princess'.  Oops I'm wrong.   I
>just went and looked at my old plant, not repotted in a zillion years and
>thankfully still labeled with its original Mobile gardens label.  It says
>"silver star'.
Silver star  for me is a narow leaved plant, rather erect, vase-shaped ,
nearly solid silver with a wee bit of visible green crossbanding.

 But I did later acquire a variety called 'silver princess'
>which looks pretty much like 'silver star'.  This variety is tall just like
>trifaciata or silver queen but with much narrower silvery leaves.

considering the names princess, platinum, silver and mobile gardens, i
gotta come to a conclusion about labelling! amazing we all saved the
information even unto the ancient labels!

  I
>remember at the time I bought these plants I bought another variety from
>Mobile Gardens called 'silver platinum', which I lost years ago.  (I'm
>getting a kick out of confusing you all!).  'Silver Platinum' probably was
>the same as 'silver queen'; 'silver star' is the same as 'silver princess',
>and 'silver moon' is the same as 'moonshine'!  So, either Mobile Gardens put
>creative names on these varieties which are incorrect or someone else
>renamed them later on!  Which names are truly the correct names I don't
>know!
>
At that time, with so few unusual Sansevierias around, i am not surprised
that liberties were taken with cultivar names.
>Now, to confuse you all , I also have a very pretty cultivar called 'silver
>laurentii', which is just like old S. trifasciata 'laurentii' with its gold
>margins but with silver centers, a little more yellow green' than the other
>silver varieties.  So that would be the fourth silver trifasciata form.
>Hmmm, then of course there are all those silver S. trifasciata hahnii forms.

Silver trifasciata laurentii is wonderful and there are clones with tons of
variegation. i have been working on that one for 15 years or so.  I have
some from florida which has ultra thik leaves and the  banding is really
wide, and thick, as if it is laid on top of the leaf.
>Its nice that Mobile Gardens used such good labels that they are still
>unbroken after all these years (18-20?).  So, Hermine,one day when
>sansevierias finally get the attention they deserve I can just see my old
>plant going up for auction at Southbys with the catalog description "a fine
>old specimen still with its original label".
>
Some of mine are still in plastic pots from the 70's very brittle, but
still in use!

this is an amazing exchange of information or misinformation or
disinformation. I wonder where Mobile got its stuff. you know, we all lived
a short distance from Roehrs and that was just a bit away from manda's
place. it would have been uncool to ask where you had gotten something, but
i was always interested  for archival reasons, rather as if i thought we
would all be trying to sort this out 20 years later.


hermine
tustin california
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