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Re: [SANS] cultivar names
- To: S*@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
- Subject: Re: [SANS] cultivar names
- From: c* <c*@NAPLESNET.COM>
- Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:21:53 -0500
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> From: Jon Dixon <jond@HOOKED.NET>
> To: SANSEVIERIAS@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
> Subject: Re: [SANS] cultivar names
> Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 4:59 PM
>
> Hi,
>
> After our discussion last week about the silver trifasciatas I found my
copy
> of Juan Chahinian's book, "The Sansevieria Trifasciata Varieties", which
> John mentioned in his post. On page 105 he has a list of "equivalent
names"
> for some of these varieties, similar to John's list below except that
Juan
> endeavors to designate one name as the correct one for each cultivar. I
> think Hermine is correct that during the many years when Sansevierias
were
> collected by just a few people spread wide apart and with little
> communication the names got pretty much confused. With species I think
> this was compounded by botanical garden and other public collections
where
> care was erratic; often the people taking care of the plants had little
> knowledge or interest in the correct names. Since these plants are
nearly
> impossible to kill they hung around for decades in such collections,
names
> faded, labels lost or in the case of the above ground stolonating species
> like suffruticosa moving about from one pot to the next rooting and
> supplanting the original inhabitants but not their original labels. When
I
> was madly collecting any Sansevieria with a new name I acquired S.
> suffruticosa five times under such names as powelii, phillipsae,
fruticosa,
> and another I can't recall. It took about ten years for me to realize
they
> were all the same suffruticosa.
>
> Anyway, back to Juan's book: he mentions all of the names we discussed
> although I don't know how he determined which name was the original for
each
> clone. I still like the name 'silver moon' better than 'moonshine' and
hate
> to change it! He also puts 'siver star' and 'silver princess' as
synonyms
> of 'gray lady', which in the text portion he describes as not getting
above
> 12" tall. But my 'silver princess' , a smaller plant in a 6" pot has a
few
> 18" leaves while my old plant of 'silver star" has most of its growths
> uniformly about 36" tall. On closer inspection I noticed that the new
> leaves of 'silver star' are silver but with many dark green flecks on
them.
> I would now say that while 'silver princess' may actually be 'gray lady';
> but, that 'silver star' is something else--it may even be correctly,
'silver
> star!
>
> Juan's book is an excellent reference for these varieties. His
descriptions
> have good photographs of each variety. He also describes quite a few
other
> trifaciata forms though I am no longer the "mad collector" and am quite
> happy with just the ones I already have. Well, maybe a few more of the
> more distinctive cultivars!...........
>
> Jon Dixon
> Woodside, California
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Gamesby(The Yeti)
> Date: Sunday, March 15, 1998 4:36 AM
>
>
>
> Hermine I agree with you totally there are son many plants going
> round the trade with different names especially over here in the uk
> as we seem to have different names to what you have over in the
> States this makes ordering anything extremely difficult. The main
> culprits are the ones with silver. platinum or moon in the name.
>
> Silver Cloud = Silver Queen = Silver Sheen
>
> Silver Moon = Moonshine = Moonglow = Platinum Princess
>
> Silver Princess = Gray Lady = Silver Parva = Silver Queen Miniature =
> = Silver Star = Silver Sword
>
> Silver Spear = Silver Queen = Silver Cloud
>
> Silver Platinum = Argentea
>
> Silver Frost = Silver Starlight
>
> As you can see quite a muddle especially the Silver Princess to
> Silver Sword muddle or mix up.
>
> <snip>
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