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Re: NOIDS [was: Just in from seller]

  • Subject: [iris-photos] Re: NOIDS [was: Just in from seller]
  • From: "donald" donald@eastland.net
  • Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:33:07 -0000

> At the risk of being a spoil sport, I have to give one of my 
> soundings about identifying irises from digital pictures.

In essence, I agree with everything you are saying.  I don't trust 
photos and I don't think a certain identification can be made most 
of the time (maybe BEWILDERBEAST would be an exception).  However, 
while I don't think a positive identification can be made, I do 
think an iris incorrectly named can be ascertained to be incorrect 
from the photos.  I doubt that no matter how bad the photo, VANITY 
is going to mistaken with STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN.  I bought from a club 
sale and some that I bought under a name were that far off when they 
bloomed.  Without access to the R&Is, this forum is pretty good to 
say what an iris isn't even when it can't say what it is for certain.

I don't understand why a NOID forum would be needed.  I don't object 
when they are posted here.  Seems much the same thing.  Often the 
person posting gets some rational possibilities.  I do think 
suggested ids should be phrased as possibilities and not as a 
positive id, but otherwise I think this group does a good job 
eliminating the number that might be possibilities.  If the grower 
of a NOID keeps that in mind, then it becomes their choice whether 
to pursue growing them side by side and trying to determine whether 
what they have matches any given intro'd cultivar.  I've only done 
that once with a grandmother iris.  Otherwise, I've found it easier 
just to leave a NOID as such and wait until maybe I acquire a 
possibility as a bonus or gimmee and see if they match.  Or, rarely, 
when I really wanted one simply buy from a reliable source and 
forget about the NOID.  Without the grandmother tie-in, I doubt I'd 
have troubled with the process and even that one was an exception.  
I had a name to work with from an aunt and an uncle.  The rest of 
the grannies still grow as NOIDs.  

Donald Eaves
Texas Zone 7b, USA

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