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RE: 'Tid-bit' - I. pallida cengialtii?

Tid-Bit lives at Presby. I took some pictures of it, and here is one. Sorry 
for the poor quality, but it is all I have. Additionally, I have another 
picture from Presby labelled Tid-Bit which is of a much lighter color, 
which, according to your description, is probably wrong. Perhaps the color 
of an AZ-AP or BABY BLUE MARINE. If you want to see it anyways, let me know.
Laetitia

>From: "David Ferguson" <manzano57@msn.com>
>Reply-To: iris-species@yahoogroups.com
>To: <iris-species@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [iris-species] 'Tid-bit' - I. pallida cengialtii?
>Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 14:08:14 -0600
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I've been digging through pedigrees of some MTB cultivars and find one 
>named 'Tid-bit' coming up a lot.  It is a common parent to several that 
>look a lot like I. pallida cengialtii.  I was wondering if anyone has a 
>photo of this one and/or knows where it might be available.  It was being 
>used in MTB breeding at least till the late 1980's (I don't have any AIS 
>checklists newer that the 1989 volume).
>
>Judging from its offspring, I would suggest that this may well be another 
>clone of I. pallida cengialtii.
>
>In the 1939 AIS Check List, it is listed as follows (but this doesn't help 
>identify it any):
>
>TID-BIT. DB-M-B1M (Sturt. 1925)
>[translates to a dwarf-bearded, mid-season flowering, medium blue self]
>
>Two plicata offspring from it, both of which "look" like I. pallida 
>cengialtii morphologically are:
>
>DOLL RIBBONS 1979 "(M. Dunderman, R. 1977). Sdlg. X105. MTB, 20"" (51 cm), 
>M."    "White with narrow dark violet-blue plicata edging around all 
>petals; white beard, light yellow in center, T432 purple: (Tid-Bit x N620 
>purple) X T67 dark blue-violet: (K245 blue x N622 dark purple). Dunderman 
>1978."  [add spathes papery translucent pale brown]
>
>and
>
>LADY BELLE 1989 "(W. T. Varner, R. 1986). Sdlg. K-321. MTB, 22"" (55 cm), 
>EM. "      "S. white with purple sanding at base; very light purple styles 
>and crests; F. white, stitched purple, heavier at hafts and lighter toward 
>lower tip; white beard tipped yellow. Tid-Bit X Dunderman O-195 white. 
>Riverdale Iris 1986."  [add spathes papery translucent pale brown]
>
>At this point I know nothing about the various listed parents, but it would 
>be interesting to learn more about them, if possible.  It appears that, 
>except for 'Tid-bit' those listed are unnamed and unregistered.
>
>Any ideas or comments on this.
>
>Thanks,
>Dave



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