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Re: RE Iris plicata

It is generally agreed that I. plicata is a synonym of I. pallida.  I have heard it suggested that 'Swertii' is the original I. plicata clone, but there are other old plicata I. pallida cultivars that might be it.  I would guess that odds are it is impossible to be sure which cultivar was the original plant, nor if it is still being growing.  Regardless, there are quite a number of I. pallida plicatas, and I would think that the genetics of most of them are quite similar.
 
Here is a link to the Curtis Botanical Magazine print of Iris plicata.  I looked up Redoute's too, and it is a purple I. pallida, and does not match I. plicata at all (looks a lot like 'Floridor' to me).  I think there might be an "I. plicata" Redoute print under another name, but I don't remember for sure.  Some of the interpretive text that goes with the Curtis (Edwards is the artist) illustration at the following link is ridiculous, so ignore things like "Orange-flowered-scented flag" and "I. aphylla".
 
 
I have another Curtis print in my computer as "Swertii", but I can't find it under that name in the CBM database.  Didn't take time to go through them all till I found it, so I've just attached a poor jpeg of it.  It may have been "Plicata" too, but I'm not sure.  Edwards did more than one of several of the same name, and the first published were (almost?) always the best.   The later ones always look more hurried and less detailed.
 
All the following, I'm nearly positive, are pure I. pallida plicatas, but I don't know if this is of any help.  Except for 'Fairy', they all look fairly similar.  The only one I haven't grown is 'Damozel', but it seems pretty positive to be I. pallida from photos I've seen.
 
Damozel
 
Fairy (pattern not well developed)
 
Little Freak (usually with six falls and no standards, but otherwise a standard I. pallida plicata)
 
Ma Mie
 
Madame Chereau
 
Parisiana
 
Pocahontas
 
Rheinfels
 
Swertii
 
True Charm
 
True Delight
 
There are a few others I suspect are I. pallida, but I haven't grown them to flowering yet.  Among them are Florentine and Grapette.
 
 
 
Dave
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 10:28 PM
Subject: [iris-species] RE Iris plicata

At one point in time there was a plant refered to as Iris plicata which later turned out to be either iris pallida or Iris variagata or a cross of them.
I'm looking for a picture, drawing etc. Also amy info of when it was first recorded etc.
I'm doing some reserch for an article on origins of the plicata pattern in iris and its history.

Thanks
Chuck Chapman

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