Re: [Re: SPEC: CULT: Setosa parameter]
Chuck Chapman wrote:
> The summer heat and dryness of location seem to do a lot re the fate of
> setosa. I grow quite a few
You grow a lot of setosa?.......
> and find that the species varieties can be quite
> intolerant of direct sun particularly if it is dry. Some that have been
> discarded but on a compost pile that is in the shade seem to last forever
> but
> then procede to die when given a second chance and planted in the sun.
This is probably true of the moisture-loving species especially. I think
the differences between even a one or two zone climate change such as ours
is apparently noticeable, from what you said above.
In zone 3, setosa are basically open meadow or bog plants, tolerating
little shade before their bloom count suffers (or the blooms cease). Near
Fairbanks (zone 2), one starts seeing them growing even in gravel ditches
rather than the lusher ground they prefer 10 feet back near the trees (they
can't handle tree root competition either, because of their meadow
heritage). They generally don't go to such extremes nearer Anchorage and
the coast, which is zone 3. I just don't see them growing in ditches around
here. The variety arctica, which I'm sorry I can't speak very
authoritatively about, grows strictly in the open. A rather simplistic rule
of thumb may be the more southerly they grow, the more they tolerate or
need increasing amounts of shade.
> On the
> otherhand crosses of one collected species to a species collected from
> another
> location will do much better. Of course weather selection plays a role in
> this
> as the less tolerant ones die out early. I'm in zone 4/5 USA (zone 6b
> Canadian).
Do you think you could expand on this a little? I'm quite interested, but
don't fully understand everything you're referring to. If you'd prefer, you
can do it off-list if it's lengthy... I'd like to hear the specifics.
> On of my seedlings "Northern Valentine" did very well down in Texas
> at the convention but was planted in the same location with the
> Louisianas.
> hope this information is useful to someone
>
You have setosa seedlings? Are they for sale?
Thanks,
Kathy Haggstrom
Anch, AK/zone 3
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