Re: [Re: SPEC: CULT: Setosa parameter]
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- Subject: Re: [Re: [iris-talk] SPEC: CULT: Setosa parameter]
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- Date: 26 Apr 00 06:56:19 EDT
Kenneth Walker <kenww@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> I don't always keep good records, but I believe one setosa came
> from Heronswood Nursery in Washington state. My white setosa
> came from a local nursery, but that's not where it was propogated.
> I found a tag amoung my iris "notes" from Valleybrook Gardens
> somwhere in Canada, but I'm not sure if it goes with this setosa or
> one I killed a few years ago by trying to grow it in the ground instead
> of a planter. Another came mislabeled as I. cretensis. However, I
> suspect it was originally mislabeled I. verna, because the iris with that
> label has leaves and growth consistent with I. cretensis (no blooms
> yet though). I have some I. setosa canadensis that I've been growing
> from seed. They seem to grow okay, but I'm still waiting for blooms.
>
> We have very dry summers. Some years it will go for 4 to 6 months
> without measurable rain. Our summer temperatures can easily exceed
> 100 degrees and the last two summers have had temperatures of
> 107 to 108 degrees. However, I live 30 miles from a very cold
> ocean. When the air heats up, the intervening hills can only hold
> back the cold maritime air for a few days at a time, so we never
> have extended hot spells. I grow setosa where they get protection
> from afternoon sun. They seem to do best for me in undrained barrels
> that aways have at least some water at the bottom..
>
> Ken Walker
>
> Daryl & Kathy Haggstrom wrote:
>
> > Kenneth Walker wrote:
> >
> > > I live in zone 9 and at least some varieties of Iris setosa
> > > do very well for me if I keep them damp enough. This is
> > > rather surprising to me as I believe I am far south of
> > > their natural range.
> > >
> > > Ken Walker
> > > Concord, CA
> >
> > It's surprising to me as well. It attests to a certain flexibility
inherent
> > in its gene pool. It seems to be a natural phenomenon inherent in many
iris
> > and plants in general, that of adapting to conditions beyond its range. I
> > would have certainly put your location beyond its range. Where did you
get
> > your plants?
> > I know I'm probably gathering erroneous information from trying to relate
> > some of these variations to heat days, as I don't feel it is completely
> > valid, but I looked up Concord on the AHS map and noticed it stays
somewhat
> > cool (for your area) during the summer, whereas Mark Cook in Florida with
a
> > cooler winter zone can't grow setosas, and has some torrid (at least it
> > sounds that way :-) summer heat. Thank you for the input - it's quite
> > interesting to see (I'm charting these responses).
> > Kathy Haggstrom
> > Anch, AK/zone 3
>
This fits with my experience ie:keep out of the direct sun (afternoon shade)
and make sure that it doesn't dry out. I would think that the growing
conditions for Louisianas (without the acid soil) would enable them to survive
warmer areas.
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