Re: Are they all REALLY different? Well, yes!
- Subject: Re: Are they all REALLY different? Well, yes!
- From: A*@aol.com
- Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:23:53 EDT
- List-archive: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris/> (Web Archive)
In a message dated 8/16/2007 8:45:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
flatnflashy@yahoo.com writes:
<<it may not be such a good thing for the iris market to be filled up with
irises that all look the same no matter how well they meet the standard or
contribute genetically.>>
Please keep in mind that there are desirable qualities other than color and
form.
An iris friend (hybridizer) and I were recently discussing our shared
fondness of wide fans that stand tall and actually fan out, with the side fans
nearly touching the soil. This is but one of the goals being pursued in iris
breeding.
Genetically speaking, each and every iris is different. Even the siblings
that "look" exactly alike are different.
I think it's a part of the human condition to want to improve on our
favorites. Find the fault as it presents in our garden and try to fix it. Give
Song of Norway more modern form (the only fault as I see it,) give Edith Wolford
& Beverly Sills better soil adaptability, improve the bud count on Dusky
Challenger. (Dusky disclaimer at the bottom)
Goals other than color and form being sought include the following:
Height (either taller or shorter)
branching
bud count
multiple buds in each socket
bloom season
bloom sequence
foliage
season extensions, including but not limited to rebloom
(anyone working on winter plant dormancy?)
Goals in bloom development include:
form
petal size
petal configurations . . . ruffles, lace, tailored, etc..
beard color
beard size (width and length)
beard protrusions (space age)
hafts
haft marks & length of haft marks
standards: domed, open well held, open-floppy
falls: horizontal, flared, or droopy
Then you have the different bloom types:
selfs
amoenas
bi-tones
bi-colored
variegata
plicatas
plicata sub groups: zonals, glaciatas, luminatas, etc., etc..
Then there are special groups:
space age (various types)
broken colors (all different)
As extensive as this list is, I must have missed several things. To many
people, they all look alike, yet none share all of the characteristics I've
listed.
If the original poster is still reading, I'd suggest she begin her iris
collection with a couple of AM collections, or an AM collection and a Dykes
collection. Although some of us see major faults in some of the award winners,
this is probably the best way to establish a good and varied collection at a
decent price. As time passes, you will develop your own favorites among the
lists I've presented.
DUSKY CHALLENGER:
Some people/judges (critics) have said this iris does not have enough buds.
In my garden, south central KY, this gorgeous iris shows an amazing
variation. I can't say with any certainty what causes the variation. Some stalks
have seven buds. These stalks present a lovely stalk. When the stalk only
presents four buds, this iris is impossible (almost) to beat. The blooms will
be huge and the color saturation is deeper. This is how it looked the day it
won "Best Specimen of Show" for me.
________________________________________________________
Betty W. in South-central KY Zone 6 ---If you don't cross them, you can't
plant them!
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Some seedlings planted and some still in the pots!
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