Re: Re: HYB: rebloom without plicata

In a message dated 12/6/2006 1:15:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
lmann@lock-net.com writes:

<<I wonder if AUTUMN TWILIGHT has hidden  plicata.>>
 
Parents aren't listed in the online register.  Pod parent has  Rosy Wings and 
Rameses.  Pollen parent has Autumn Elf, Ambrosia, &  Autumn King.  
 
Didn't you and I discuss going back to Brown irises to avoid the plicata  
genes, something like last fall or winter?  I didn't really want to go that  far 
back!!  
 
How many of the Brown rebloomers do you still grow?  No!   NO!  Forget I said 
that!!  
 
I think I'd rather build a NEW one!!   It would only take  forever!  <vbg> 
 
<<So far, none of the HARVEST OF MEMORIES babies have shown any sign  of 
plicata in the first generation, but few of the HoM X blue crosses have  
been successful and I wouldn't expect it to show in non-blue crosses (it  
might be there, but no blue pigment to express it).

If that's any  help <g>>>
 
Unless I'm missing something, the best way to TEST it would be to cross a  
plicata onto it??  I don't know how many I'd have to grow without plicata  
seedlings to be sure the gene doesn't transmit.  But I figure I've looked  at 
enough of the 1812 seedlings to be fairly sure.  140+ planted and I  think most 
bloomed.  No plicata.  Lots of lavender fall overlays as  expected.  
 
Immortality transmits the first generation.  I've grown them.   Violet 
Miracle transmits.  When crossed with Brother Carl, it gave  Matrix.  (Plicata in 
Brother Carl too)  
 
I wonder how many generations I'd have to go with VM to breed OUT the  
plicata while still retaining both rebloom and decent form?  Just keep  reducing the 
white spot at the beard.  Simple!!  ;-)  
 
Okay, lets say I put Rippling River (pollen fertile only) on VM and  produce 
150 plants?  I'm going to HOPE that the rebloom from Ship  Shape, Full Tide, 
and Five Star Admiral kick in and give me some rebloom?   Why RR?  Awesome 
ruffles which it passes on!  (research!) 
 
Select and cross the four best seedlings . . . beauty, color, stalk, buds,  
branching, etc..  Establish a  'pretty' line and then breed for  rebloom!  
Bingo!!  With enough first generation seedlings I might be  able to get both 
pretty and rebloom in the same varieties.  This would help  some and cut 2+ years 
off the time table.    
 
Planting as early as possible and turning each generation around as quick  as 
mother nature would allow?  Assuming I'm successful at the earliest  possible 
time in each instance?  
 
If I got rebloom with the first rebloom set, I'll have something to  
introduce no earlier than 2020!  (Maybe 2018.)  Lot of time  invested.  
 
 

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