Re: Digest Number 891
- Subject: Re: [iris-talk] Digest Number 891
- From: d* a*
- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 06:45:00 -0600
From: "dorothy anderson" <dander02@mail.coin.missouri.edu>
I would like the list. Somehow I missed it first time around. I
have become more and more interested in the IB's and dwarfs as they seem to
be more reliable for me. Thank you! Dorothy Anderson, columbia, MO
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Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 2:41 AM
Subject: [iris-talk] Digest Number 891
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>There are 22 messages in this issue.
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>Topics in today's digest:
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> 1. Re: HYB: aphylla analysis
> From: linda Mann <lmann@mailhub.icx.net>
> 2. Re: Re: HYB: aphylla analysis
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
> 3. CULT: Damping Off and Herbs
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
> 4. Re: Digest Number 890 cult. soap
> From: Aquaticg348@cs.com
> 5. OT-BIO: Rose Lieberman
> From: "Rose & Fred Lieberman" <pyrite@clarityconnect.com>
> 6. CULT: SIB: From Seed?
> From: "Rose & Fred Lieberman" <pyrite@clarityconnect.com>
> 7. RE: CULT: soap and mouthwash fertilizer
> From: "Title, CDR Lynn A." <titlel@spawar.navy.mil>
> 8. Re: CULT: SIB: From Seed?
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
> 9. Re: AIS: Clubs (not weapons!)
> From: virginia prins <inanda@bc.sympatico.ca>
> 10. Re: OT-BIO: Rose Lieberman
> From: Gullo <tgf@frontiernet.net>
> 11. Re: AIS: Clubs (not weapons!)
> From: "Starlord" <starlord@QNET.COM>
> 12. Re: HIST: Historic web page
> From: "William Stone" <wstone@volcano.net>
> 13. TB: Shirley M
> From: Chad Schroter <Chad.Schroter@quantum.com>
> 14. Re: HYB: IB: pedigrees of fertile IBs
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
> 15. Re: Re-Bloomers
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
> 16. Re: OT-CHAT: Just Say "Neigh"
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
> 17. Re: OT-CHAT: Just Say "Neigh"
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
> 18. Re: OT-CHAT: "Neigh"/oops
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
> 19. IB: fertile IB list
> From: "Jan Clark" <janclarx@hotmail.com>
> 20. Re: OT-CHAT: "Neigh"/oops
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
> 21. IB:Fertility
> From: Gullo <tgf@frontiernet.net>
> 22. Re: PCI: Hardiness in the USA
> From: monashee <monashee@junction.net>
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>Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:20:02 -0500
> From: linda Mann <lmann@mailhub.icx.net>
>Subject: Re: HYB: aphylla analysis
>
>Thanks for the detailed post, Sharon.
>
>What I was thinking, except I was thinking about plant growth habits, in
>particular, response to drought and late winter/spring freezes, rather
>than inheritance of 'aphylla branching'. E.g., aphylla seems to lose
>it's leaves (go dormant) in response to cold or drought, is very shallow
>rooted compared to, for example, the clone of reichenbachii I have, &
>doesn't like the heat/drought of late spring summer - stalks are
>stunted, plants don't thrive.
>
>> If first-generation crosses between aphylla and base-12 species could be
>> made and observed, we'd gain more clues. An interesting experiment, but
>> not likely to produce anything worthy of introduction so not likely to be
>> done....
>
>Now THAT'S a project for Linda Mann if I ever heard one... But I
>wouldn't know 'aphylla type branching' if I tripped over it. However, I
>can compare growth habits.
>
>Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
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>Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:15:14 EST
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Re: HYB: aphylla analysis
>
>In a message dated 2/15/00 7:24:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>lmann@mailhub.icx.net writes:
>
><< But I wouldn't know 'aphylla type branching' if I tripped over it. >>
>
>There is a nice diagram of types of branching associated with various
species
>in Cornell Bulletin 112, Bearded Iris, a Perennial Suited to All Gardens,
By
>Austin W.W. Sand, available in reprint from HIPS. See the HIPS page under
>Sales Items for details. http://www.worldiris.com.
>
>Anner Whitehead
>HIPSource@aol.com
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>Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:33:03 EST
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
>Subject: CULT: Damping Off and Herbs
>
>In a message dated 2/15/00 12:38:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>croyer@fastrans.net writes:
>
><< I have used ChamomileTea for damping off and it work well. >>
>
>Yeah, I've heard about this, too, but like I said, I've never had any
trouble
>with irises damping off and I don't have trouble with anything much damping
>off since I started sowing the inside stuff in vermiculite. The other herb
>I've heard mentioned in this regard is "horsetail" but they never give you
a
>binomial so you can be absolutly sure you are understanding what they are
>talking about, anyway, I understand 'horsetail" to be Eqisetum, which is an
>odd and endearing plant of great antiquity and one that you want to be
>careful about introducing into the garden since it can be very hard to
>control. A friend of mine got a stand going in optimum conditions and it
>became a nightmare. She tells the story of finally having to get out there
>with the yard man and dig deep holes to get to the roots, which they
stroked
>with undiluted Round-up. The really neat thing about Equisetum is that it
>carries crystals of silicon in its tissues and is thus abrasive. It was
used
>to scour pots with in the old days. Silicon is mysterious stuff and one
keeps
>hearing about it being the panacea for many plant ills, but at least to
this
>non-scientist, it does not look like one is getting much practical
>information about implementing the panacea.
>
>Anner Whitehead
>HIPSource@aol.com
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>Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:03:00 EST
> From: Aquaticg348@cs.com
>Subject: Re: Digest Number 890 cult. soap
>
>hi anner and all
>i use the soap 2 times a few days apart. you might use a less concentrated
>version in the house. i have a big black tub [holds about 10 gal.] in my
>greenhouse where i keep
>a mixture of antibacterial soap, mouthwash fertilizer and superthrive this
is
>a concentrate of maybe 2 -3 tablespoons of soap 4 0z. mouthwash fertilizer
at
>about 1/4 strenghth. and 2 lids of super thrive[vitamine supplement} and if
>i'm watering acid plants i use viniger with it. a lovely plant coctail!! i
>hope this helps. i water with this everytime.
>karene
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>Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:14:06 -0800
> From: "Rose & Fred Lieberman" <pyrite@clarityconnect.com>
>Subject: OT-BIO: Rose Lieberman
>
>Greetings! My name is Rose, I live in upstate New York (zone 5), on a
>35-acre piece of semi-wilderness, with husband Fred and our 7 cats.
>
>We will be entering our new business as cutflower growers this year. We
>also do significant vegetable gardening to feed ourselves.
>
>I plan on growing some irises as cutflowers, but mostly for landscaping.
>I've chosen to grow Siberian Irises from seed this year because I have a
>slight slope that is moist but well drained, that I really would rather not
>mow. I'll need to irises in quantity!
>
>We're new to this particular piece of property so I haven't had the chance
>to "collect" irises. But I did purchase some from Schreiner's last season
>and I'm looking forward to them this spring.
>
>That's it for me. Glad to be on board.
>
>Rose
>
>
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>Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:25:38 -0800
> From: "Rose & Fred Lieberman" <pyrite@clarityconnect.com>
>Subject: CULT: SIB: From Seed?
>
>I'm new to the list and just sent in my bio. But I thought I'd jump in
with
>a question.
>
>I'm starting Siberian Irises from seed. I'm a cutflower grower with a
>heated hoophouse greenhouse, so I can offer the seed some controlled
>surroundings.
>
>Any advice on this project? Easy? Difficult? Best planting media?
>Germination length and temp? Light or dark to germ? and MOST important -
>
>Can the seedlings be put in their permanent place THIS year, after
>germination and growing on is achieved?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rose
>
>
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>Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:43:28 -0500
> From: "Title, CDR Lynn A." <titlel@spawar.navy.mil>
>Subject: RE: CULT: soap and mouthwash fertilizer
>
>
>Karene, I've GOT to ask: what is "mouthwash fertilizer" and how d'you make
>it/use it?
>
>Lynn
>
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>Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 13:09:10 EST
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
>Subject: Re: CULT: SIB: From Seed?
>
>In a message dated 2/15/00 12:26:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>pyrite@clarityconnect.com writes:
>
><< I'm starting Siberian Irises from seed. I'm a cutflower grower with a
>heated hoophouse greenhouse, so I can offer the seed some controlled
>surroundings... Any advice on this project? Easy? Difficult? Best
planting
>media? Germination length and temp? Light or dark to germ? >>
>
>Hey, Rose, welcome to the list.
>
>I'm right far south of you so I'm not going to address when to line out
your
>seedlings, although I will offer you what I know about germination of
>Siberians, of which I've done several very successful batches.
>
>It should be said that like the afficianados of any other genus we on this
>list have differing ideas about the best way to approach iris seed
>germination, and you will probably get several answers here. It must be
>remembered that all irises do not require the same conditions for
>germination, but with some of them several methods work.
>
>Here is what I know about Siberians. I developed my own system after
reading
>Norm Deno's books on germination, with which you may be familiar, and
through
>personal experience. I am in Zone 7, Virginia.
>
>Siberians profit from a pre-soak to rehydrate the seed and leach
germination
>inhibitors, they profit from light on the seeds, and they germinate at warm
>temperatures. No need for stratification and stratification does not
>measurably inhance germination rates. Most seed if it is fresh has a high
>rate of germination although there may be some empty seed coats.
>
>Method: Soak the seed for about 5-7 days in warm tap water, changing the
>water daily. Prepare a container of sterile medium or vermiculite which is
>large enough to contain the seeds when they are planted one inch apart.
>Smooth the surface of the medium and water from the bottom until it is
>thoroughly wet. Let drain until no longer dripping. With an implement like
a
>pencil with an eraser on it, make small depressions about three eighths of
an
>inch deep in the smooth, moist medium. Into each place a hydrated seed.
Press
>slightly to ensure contact with the medium, but do not cover seed with
>medium. When all the seeds are sown, cover the whole thing with a sheet of
>plastic film or transparent plastic cover to retain moisture. Place in a
warm
>place with bright light but not in direct sun. Expect germination in two to
>six weeks and expect the germination rate to follow a regular curve. Any
>seeds which mold at the umbilicus are dead and may be removed with
tweezers.
>Since these are monocots, when they germinate they will look like a tiny
>little iris. Be careful not to let them dry out or get too wet at any
point,
>especially after the root emerges. Remove wrap gradually as germination
>starts, leaving it loosly in place until the haft way point, then removing
it
>altogether. If you see a seed with a root waving around in the air, fiddle
it
>with a toothpick until it is reorientated toward the medium. Depending on
>which medium you are using, you can pot up quite early, like at about an
inch
>or two, or wait a bit, but they profit from being given a good root run
since
>a lot of the action is happening there. Once they are up and running they
>will grow pretty rapidly. I would not line out myself before the first fall
>and if you can hold them over the first winter in quart pots in a cold
>greenhouse, so much the better.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Anner Whitehead
>HIPSource@aol.com
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>Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:08:59 -0800
> From: virginia prins <inanda@bc.sympatico.ca>
>Subject: Re: AIS: Clubs (not weapons!)
>
>> ... that begets a question - how did you first get mixed up with your
>> local iris club? And if you are a member of a club, what do you like
best
>> about it?
>>
>
>Iris-L. Pure and simple. Was growing TBs happily- planting by colour.
Found
>iris-L as soon as I got my computer. It was Tom's first week. Think there
were
>17 members. Our revered statistician -vbg- collated bios, later birthdays-
>Joined CIS around then, started going to meetings at RBG in Hamilton. Met
>great people. Miss people in the East. Think it was iris-L that caused
>Carolyn, irisborer & others to come to meetings in Canada. Put together a
>GREAT JI Symposium (time for another hint hint) and now are planning the
joint
>Sib convention along with CIS.
>
>What do I like best about the club. Learning so much. The newsletter,
ably
>edited by Chris, fellowship and sales.
>
>It has been very exciting meeting fellow geeks. Saw my first versicolor
walking
>in her woods with Ellen G. Now have seedlings from that plant - bloomed
here
>for the first time last year.
>
>Ginny in Victoria BC where there is no iris society but thankfully a very
active
>Lily Society.
>
>
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>Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:55:50 -0500
> From: Gullo <tgf@frontiernet.net>
>Subject: Re: OT-BIO: Rose Lieberman
>
>Hi Rose and Fred,
>
> Welcome to the list. Where in New York are you? I'm am just east of
>Rochester. We have just gotten a new iris club going here and perhaps we
will
>see you at one of the meetings sometime. Hope you find the list to be
>enjoyable and informative.
>
>
>Michael Gullo
>West Walworth, NY
>zone 6
>
>Rose & Fred Lieberman wrote:
>
>> From: "Rose & Fred Lieberman" <pyrite@clarityconnect.com>
>>
>> Greetings! My name is Rose, I live in upstate New York (zone 5), on a
>> 35-acre piece of semi-wilderness, with husband Fred and our 7 cats.
>>
>> We will be entering our new business as cutflower growers this year. We
>> also do significant vegetable gardening to feed ourselves.
>>
>> I plan on growing some irises as cutflowers, but mostly for landscaping.
>> I've chosen to grow Siberian Irises from seed this year because I have a
>> slight slope that is moist but well drained, that I really would rather
not
>> mow. I'll need to irises in quantity!
>>
>> We're new to this particular piece of property so I haven't had the
chance
>> to "collect" irises. But I did purchase some from Schreiner's last
season
>> and I'm looking forward to them this spring.
>>
>> That's it for me. Glad to be on board.
>>
>> Rose
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>Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:51:01 -0800
> From: "Starlord" <starlord@QNET.COM>
>Subject: Re: AIS: Clubs (not weapons!)
>
>I'm not a club member, when I did contact the club that's down in
>Palmdale, they sent me a flyer, 'Postage Due'(no stamp), but I went
>down to their lalic show/iris sale anyway, I even bough an iris, but
>they didn't have a show last year and the paper gave notice they're
>not having one this year, and the altatude I got, was like being from
>the Wrong side of the tracks, or in my case, wrong side of the county
>line. Such is life in Kern county.
>
>So I tend to my desert garden that is showing signs of some iris
>growing and lurk here on the list and on friday night I terrarize the
>chat.
>
>
>The Year is 2259, The Name of the Place is Babylon 5
>http://www.whitelakeweb.com/siar
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: virginia prins <inanda@bc.sympatico.ca>
>To: <iris-talk@onelist.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 12:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [iris-talk] AIS: Clubs (not weapons!)
>
>
>> From: virginia prins <inanda@bc.sympatico.ca>
>>
>> > ... that begets a question - how did you first get mixed up with
>your
>> > local iris club? And if you are a member of a club, what do you
>like best
>> > about it?
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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>Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:18:48 -0000
> From: "William Stone" <wstone@volcano.net>
>Subject: Re: HIST: Historic web page
>
>Looks good Steve, the background and lettering doen't take away from the
>photos. very nice Bill
>wstone@volcano.net
>Stone's Iris Garden
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>From: "Steven & Sharlyn Rocha" <srocha@pacbell.net>
>To: "Iris-talk" <iris-talk@onelist.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 3:20 AM
>Subject: [iris-talk] HIST: Historic web page
>
>
>> From: Steven & Sharlyn Rocha <srocha@pacbell.net>
>>
>> Hello List,
>> I have just added a historic page to my Aunt and Uncles'
>> Website,Woodland Iris Gardens.
>> http://home.pacbell.net/iris4u/historicpage.html
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> -Steve & Sharlyn Rocha
>> srocha@pacbell.net
>> 1957 Chevy 3600, 454
>> President, San Diego/Imperial Co. Iris Society
>> Region 15, Zone 9
>> http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/7679 (Irises)
>> http://home.pacbell.net/srocha/mussey.html (Historic Site)
>> http://home.pacbell.net/srocha (Horses)
>> http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/7679/societyindex.html (Iris Society)
>>
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>Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:54:42 -0800
> From: Chad Schroter <Chad.Schroter@quantum.com>
>Subject: TB: Shirley M
>
> Could someone please lookup and post the parentage of SHIRLEY M
>please. Thanks in advance.
>
> Also I am on the lookout for pinks with brick (orange with blue
>influence) beards, i.e. Godsend is one I believe, any others that people
>know of ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chad Schroter
> Planning crosses
>
>
>
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>Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:16:37 EST
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
>Subject: Re: HYB: IB: pedigrees of fertile IBs
>
>In a message dated 12/29/99 5:31:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>lmann@mailhub.icx.net writes:
>
><< Has anybody out there tracked pedigrees of "fertile" IBs enough to know
> if there are ancestors that show up repeatedly?
> >>
>Linda,
> Barb Johnson's list of fertile IB's is great, but no pedigrees on it as I
>recall...I'm sure she'd send you one if she hasn't already. (printed mine
>out and deleted it.)
>
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>Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:16:40 EST
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Re-Bloomers
>
>HI Rosalie,
> Didn't get the reblooming symposium ballot in on time but I'll let you
>know my rebloom for this year...
> It began with SUMMER GREEN SHADOWS that had a beautiful stalk
(although
>the flower itself isnt particularly remarkable) Oct. 19th...followed by
>WINTERLAND and LADY EMMA in November, then MISTY TWILIGHT and CORAL
>CHARMER and HARVEST OF MEMORIES end of Nov. and into DEc., then December
saw
>Christmas bloom on SUMMER OLYPICS...
> A bud has been sitting down in the leaves on Glacier King since end of
>NOvember!! Cold nights no doubt keeping it from emerging.
>
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>Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:16:40 EST
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
>Subject: Re: OT-CHAT: Just Say "Neigh"
>
>In a message dated 2/12/00 1:00:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>HIPSource@aol.com writes:
>
><< Just say "neigh.' >>
>Anner,
> Seems like horse sense to me. Of course the mane problem is,
>
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>Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:22:56 EST
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
>Subject: Re: OT-CHAT: Just Say "Neigh"
>
>In a message dated 2/15/00 9:19:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>GardnrJan1@aol.com writes:
>
><< Seems like horse sense to me. Of course the mane problem is, >>
>
>Hoof in mouth desease?
>
>Anner Whitehead
>HIPSource@aol.com
>
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>Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:32:22 EST
> From: GardnrJan1@aol.com
>Subject: Re: OT-CHAT: "Neigh"/oops
>
>In a message dated 2/15/00 9:26:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>HIPSource@aol.com writes:
>
><< Hoof in mouth desease?
> >>
>AOL throwing fits disease...meant to finish it and post pictures to
>iris-photos and this stupid thing has been freezing. So I hit the button
>for flashsessons and it just threw out all the mail I hadn't finished!!
>AUGH!!
>
>jANET
>
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>Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:52:31 PST
> From: "Jan Clark" <janclarx@hotmail.com>
>Subject: IB: fertile IB list
>
>I have a copy of this list if anyone wants it.
>Jan Clark
>
>
>
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>Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:02:25 EST
> From: HIPSource@aol.com
>Subject: Re: OT-CHAT: "Neigh"/oops
>
>In a message dated 2/15/00 9:33:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>GardnrJan1@aol.com writes:
>
><<
> << Hoof in mouth desease?
> >>
> AOL throwing fits disease...meant to finish it and post pictures to
> iris-photos and this stupid thing has been freezing. So I hit the button
> for flashsessons and it just threw out all the mail I hadn't finished!!
> AUGH!! >>
>
>Well, mine is doing that fool thing again where it doesn't grab spelling
>corrections after I've made them, so I can relate.
>
>Anner Whitehead
>HIPSource@aol.com
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>Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:17:02 -0500
> From: Gullo <tgf@frontiernet.net>
>Subject: IB:Fertility
>
>Hi All,
>
> I find this thread of interest mainly because in my experience
>IB's, while at times difficult, usually respond to some sort of
>persistent hybridizing efforts. The most difficult IB I have worked
>with is Lo Ho Silver, but even this cultivar has produced some viable
>seed for me. I have found some bearded cultivars (of all classes)
>that seem to produce pollen that is extremely determined, if you know
>what I mean. Some of these super potent plants could probably set pods
>on an iris photograph. It is possible that I am only growing IB
>cultivars that are not considered sterile.
> Now if you want to talk about sterile plants I have some sibtosas
>that have continued to thwart my hybridizing efforts. I'll keep trying
>though.
> Would like to hear about some the IB cultivars that are not
>fertile.
>
>Michael Gullo
>West Walworth, NY
>zone 6
>
>
>
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>Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 23:11:09 -0800
> From: monashee <monashee@junction.net>
>Subject: Re: PCI: Hardiness in the USA
>
>Loberg wrote:
>>
>>
>> After 10 years of trying to get Pacific Coast Hybrids to survive
after
>> planting, the best advice I received was to obtain them and plant them in
>> November...
>
>I think this may depend on your climate. I have talked
>before about my adventures in trying to erase the family
>fortune by buying PCIs. Every single one died and they were
>good looking plants when they arrived - generally about the
>first week of Nov.
>
>At last I came to my senses and began to grow them from seed
>and this proved to be quite successful. The originl
>seedlings are now about 11 years old and still strong.
>During their first winter they experienced -32C (under about
>8" - 10" of snow). In the early years, during our hot, dry
>summers they received very little water.
>
>I have moved them within my own garden during the fall but
>there are indications that for cold winter zones, it is much
>better to dig and ship during the early spring. This will
>allow them to get rooted before the hot temperatures arrive.
>A bare root plant received here in late Oct to early Nov is
>under a death sentence.
>
>Cheers
>John Montgomery
>Vernon BC
>Zone 5
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