Re: Re: HYB: another terminology question
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  • Subject: Re: Re: HYB: another terminology question
  • From: t*@cs.com
  • Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:12:32 -0500 (EST)
perfect!




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-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Wilkerson <autmirislvr@aol.com>
To: iris <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Sat, Feb 23, 2013 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: [iris] Re: HYB: another terminology question


Siblings are any seedlings that come from the same cross.  Example:
'Treasured' X 'Renown'.  Treasured is the pod parent and Renown is the
pollen parent.

A reverse cross would be 'Renown' X 'Treasure'.  It is not the same.

Technically . . . if Linda made the same cross five years later they
would be siblings.  They are still the same cross.

Each seedlings in a pod is different, even if it can not be seen with
the naked eye.  So, the fact that the seedlings in Linda's cross would
look different than the ones in my cross would be expected, even though
they would still (most) look like siblings.

Does this help?


Betty Wilkerson
Zone 6 KY
autmirislvr@aol.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Shaub Dunkley <miscaccts@bellsouth.net>
To: iris <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 5:21 pm
Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: another terminology question


Hey group -Hope this formats correctly - was unclear about how to post
to the list.  I've lurked for some time on a learning curve. Long curve
to go but gotta stumble in somewhere.It would seem being able to
distinguish between pod sibling and sibling separated by time has value
worth conserving. Fraternal twins have less chance of being
step-sibling. Across time, particularly across years, there is more
chance that records might have got mixed up, or field labels got mixed
up and Daddy Joe then is not Daddy Joe now, etc. (same for Mom). Might
not a discriminating (subsequent) hybridizer want to utilize sibling
known to be from within the same pod if he wanted to critically improve
chances of breeding within a certain gene pool?I'm still figuring out
to sleuth cross information in the registry but it is apparent some
hybridizers use numbering systems that are fairly transparent as to who
are pod sibling and who are across-time sibling. Gold stars to them.BTW
- are there better terms than pod siblings and across-time
siblings?Shaub DunkleyAsheville, North Carolina Z6b-----Original
Message----- From: Tom Waters <irises@telp.com> To: iris
<iris@hort.net> Sent: Fri, Feb 22, 2013 9:11 am Subject: [iris] HYB:
another terminology questionWhile we're at it, I'm interested in how
people understand the term "sibling". I've seen it sometimes apparently
restricted to two irises that came from the same pod of seed, or at
least the product of the cross of two plants made by the same
hybridizer in the same year. It seems to me that since the two parents
are clones, any irises with the same parentage are siblings, even if
the crosses that produced them were made many years or miles apart by
different people. My own brother and sisters, for example, are no less
my brother and sisters for having been gestated separately at different
times. ;) Tom Waters Telperion Oasis ~ www.telp.com/irises Cuyamungue,
New Mexico, USA (zone 6) ----------------------------------------From:
"Tom Waters" <irises@telp.com>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:22
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