Re: COMP: finding stuff on FB
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  • Subject: Re: COMP: finding stuff on FB
  • From: B* G* <6*@rewrite.hort.net>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:17:37 -0700

Maybe, I missed something that you have written,  but I don't think AIS has drifted away from the idea of being a united Umbrella, not a separate organization.  Each of AIS's suborganizations,  eg. Louisiana Iris Society, Aril and Arilbred Society, Dwarf Iris Society, etc. etc.   has a board meeting and a membership meeting of its own at the annual AIS convention.   The AIS National Attention is well attended -- as far as I can tell by looking at the crowds -- and the membership meetings have good turnouts.   Then there are other meetings around the country for the sub organizations as well.  AIS has board meetings every-so-often around the country as well.   
     I just don't see a problem with the sub-organizations except that some of them have more members and energy and enthusiasm than others, but, at least in the respect of the sub-organizations AIS is doing fine as far as I can tell.
     I don't much care for FB myself, but I do belong to it and I do check out infomation that is important for AIS on there.    On the other hand, most of what is on FB isn't really required to be a fully participating member of AIS.   On the other hand, The Iris Encyclopedia would be very difficult to live without.  
      I don't know if you have ever attended an AIS Convention or not, but you should attend if you have not.  There you get the idea of how all the organizations work together and how much the members of the AIS and its sub-organizations overlap.  Many of us belong to the AIS and to serveral of the sub-organizations. 
      I am sure there are some things that are broken about our organization, but I really think figuring out how to have a vibrant organization when so many women now have jobs outside the home is one of the largest.  Society has changed and we have to change along with it.
      If I have missed something important, please let me know what it is. 
Betty Gunther

    

On 1/9/2016 11:30 AM, Shaub Dunkley wrote:
Yes, it sounds counter-intuitive to not try to maintain a distinct separateness but we must be open-minded to a least come to the table and explore the ideas. We need some public relations people in on such a thing. LOL - diplomats for 'peace talks' if we must. Just planning / creating the technology to do it is only half of the equation.

Have we have drifted away from the vision of AIS as being a united Umbrella, not a separate organization? A United Nations and not a nation to itself? And maybe the AIS has drifted from this as well? My experience is very shallow in the irisarian community so I don't assert these things as much as ask those with deeper tenure.

I understand the AIS is rewriting it's bylaws. Is this true? An opportunity for cultural change?

oh - before I forget yet again. Thank you Chris for continuing to give us hort.net.
Shaub
On 1/9/2016 12:44 PM, Robert Pries wrote:
The vision I expressed was not what you say I said. There would be no partitians. It would be seamless and the experience would not feel like one has left the site on which one entered. It simply would open the whole Iris community to everyone participating in some way. I realize This treads on the turf of everyone including AIS but maybe its time we all come down from our silos we have built and start working together. It is always easier to find problems than it is to work to fix them.


From: "Laetitia Munro" 9*@rewrite.hort.net
To: "iris hort" i*@hort.net
Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 11:41:47 AM
Subject: RE: COMP: [iris] finding stuff on FB

So you see...while I am a rabid Facebook user,why  we could be missing a good number of our irisarian friends because they do not like Facebook (with good reason). I also know Nancy the ROOTS editor does not go on Facebook either.
People like Shaub and Nancy who are active community irisarians, (irisarians who like to network ) should not feel obligated to join a social network (that in and of itself has nothing to do with irises) that they do not feel comfortable with, just to talk to other irsarians.
As a first step, how many of the other iris groups affiliated with AIS (and perhaps including groups like NZIS, BIS  or international recognized iris groups) would be interested the idea of an iris mega forum?
I am trying to think this one out: If one goes to the HIPS forum (that narrow little portal where you have to use your HIPS ID to get in) you are sent to a 'mega forum entry hall'- telling you that you were redirected (off the HIPS website) to a mega forum  and from there, you can choose to continue to the HIPS forum room   or you can choose to go to another section/groups forum room. If you have paid your dues to get into the HIPS forum, you get access to every other forum, and vice versa. To gain access to the mega forum and all their rooms, one has to be a paying member of some bona fide AIS recognized iris group or section. This would not be one giant forum with threads for the different groups, but each Forum 'room' would be designated for a particular group to monitor and maintain. Those sections or groups that do not currently have forums can opt in if they choose, and are willing to provide monitoring and some cash for development and upkeep.
Well that is my vision for the future anyways.
 
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:00:18 -0500
> To: i*@hort.net
> Subject: Re: COMP: [iris] finding stuff on FB
> From: 4*@rewrite.hort.net
>
> lol - I'm so dense sometimes. I was trying to find the conversations via
> the AIS page. I don't know what I was thinking. I know how Yahoo groups
> works ... duh. But I assume one has to Sign Up to FB first to be able to
> join a group anyway and I refuse to do that. It's a personal protest and
> the implications I accept as it goes with the consequences of my choice.
> Some non-profits on that group list you give and they should be helping
> find a nonprofit means to provide their members an irisarian networking
> and community. Shaub
> On 1/9/2016 7:22 AM, Linda Mann wrote:
> > In the upper left corner, there is a box that can be used to search
> > for FB 'pages' or groups.
> > i.e.:
> > Reblooming Iris Society
> > Iris Hybridizers
> > Iris Lovers
> > Median Iris Society
> > Dwarf Iris Society
> > AIS Region 7
> > East Tennessee Iris Society
> >
> > Linda Mann
> >
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