Re: Digest Number 1591
- Subject: Re: [iris-talk] Digest Number 1591
- From: B* V*
- Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 06:59:56 -0500
please remove me from this list
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Subject: [iris-talk] Digest Number 1591
> There are 5 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Bill's Book
> From: "Impressive Irises" <irises@senet.com.au>
> 2. Re: (unknown)
> From: "Impressive Irises" <irises@senet.com.au>
> 3. Re: :CHAT;My Foggy Memory.
> From: "Impressive Irises" <irises@senet.com.au>
> 4. Re: Bill's Book
> From: "Impressive Irises" <irises@senet.com.au>
> 5. CULT: Options for growing irises in a new garden.
> From: "Jan Clark" <janclarx@hotmail.com>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 05:48:17 +0930
> From: "Impressive Irises" <irises@senet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Bill's Book
>
> Having found a chance to devour Bill's Book. I can't praise it enough. One
> of the best no nonsense gardening books I've ever read. Fine for
Australian
> readers. Just insert Aust for where you read Califorina/Texas and ignore
> advice for New England etc. Doesn't have the all the fancy photos of
Graeme
> Grosvenor's book but the info is a lot clearer.
>
> Speaking of fancy photos I'm doing this on one computer, while my scanner
is
> busy on the other printing off some photo's for an aril grower friend, Pat
> Toolan. If anything gives me the "gimme s" its a photo of I eleglisimata
or
> hermona.
>
> Colleen Modra
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerry Snyder <gerrysnyder@mediaone.net>
> To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com <iris-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, July 02, 2001 4:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [iris-talk] SPEC : Species information please?
>
>
> >Paul Tyerman wrote:
> >>
> >> Howdy Wendy,
> >>
> >> >Iris, Flower of the Rainbow by Graeme Grosvenor and of course Bill
> Shears
> >> >marvellous book.
> >>
> >> The Grosvenor book I have misplaced. I own it but can't find it at the
> >> moment. Don't own Bill's book either.
> >
> >You should.
> >
> >The AIS board is, rather, ahem, conservative in most matters. The AIS
> >storefront had never carried a non-AIS publication. After the board
> >saw Bill's book, it authorized the storefront to carry it.
> >
> >'Nuff said.
> >
> >Gerry
> >--
> >g*@mediaone.net
> >Gerry Snyder, AIS Symposium Chair, Region 15 RVP
> >Member San Fernando Valley, Southern California Iris Societies
> >in warm, winterless Los Angeles--USDA 9b-ish, Sunset 18-19
> >my work: helping generate data for: http://galileo.jpl.nasa.gov/
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:02:02 +0930
> From: "Impressive Irises" <irises@senet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: (unknown)
>
> Jan
> Any interest in sharing some of Sam's goodies
>
> Colleen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Clark <janclarx@hotmail.com>
> To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com <iris-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:05 AM
> Subject: [iris-talk] (unknown)
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >>I dont know if this will be of much help but I got a lot of info
regarding
> >>the growth patterns of many of your irises from Jan Clark
> >
> >LOL - since I have been dobbed in, I had better reply. Paul - are you a
> >member of the ARILROBIN? They might be able to give you some answers.
They
> >have had extensive discussions re germination lately.
> >
> >>Jan might be able to help you further as she is a mine of helpful info
and
> >>has quite a collection of Junos etc from what I can remember.
> >
> >No junos here, sorry to say, only a few seeds which haven't been planted.
I
> >would love info re germinating and growing these, in about a zone 8. I am
> >moving in 3 months to a climate similar to Pauls in Canberra (Creswick -
> >north of Ballarat) I will be disappointed if it doesn't snow at least
once
> a
> >year. Not many frosts, they usually have a good blanket of fog every
> morning
> >in winter.
> >I do have a lot of Aribreds, courtesy of Sam Fankhauser. That is probably
> >what Wendy was thinking of. I am pleased to say they are looking very
> >healthy, and might give me some bloom this season.
> >Cheers, Jan
> >> > Iris mandshurica
> >> > Iris thunbergii
> >> > Iris sogdiana
> >> > Iris haynii
> >> > Iris jordana
> >> > Iris stolonifera
> >> > Iris koreana
> >> > Iris latifolia
> >> > Iris caucasica
> >> > Iris sikkimensis
> >> > Iris aucheri
> >> > Iris magnifica
> >> >
> >> > If anyone has information on any or all of these species then I >
would
> >>be most appreciative of some of it. I know almost nothing > about most
of
> >>these species (some I cannot even find in reference > books, others
there
> >>are references to, but nothing much else.
> >> > Cheers
> >> > Paul Tyerman
> >> > Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:16:12 +0930
> From: "Impressive Irises" <irises@senet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: :CHAT;My Foggy Memory.
>
> Wendy
>
> Dare I tell you it was 20-22oC in Perth last week. Everyone acted like
they
> were going to die when it got down to 6-7oC overnight, hats, scarves,
great
> coats etc. Finished work early on my last day and had a wonderful walk in
> Kings Park. Found the Banskia garden for the first time. For those that
> don't know, King's Park is a huge botanic garden of Western Aust flora,
> magnificently set on a hill overlooking Perth city and the huge Swan
River.
> Some things make so much travelling for work, a lot more acceptable.
> Caught up with Ann Pearce also. She's doing quite well.
>
> Here its been fine and frosty, about -1 overnight and 17oC during the day.
> WIll need some rain soon.
> My reticulatas are just popping through. Slugs have been nibbling the
tops.
> Hate using much slug bait as I'm worried about hurting our large frog
> population.
> Bought a lot of PCN seeds fron Ghio and they're all starting to germinate
> along with the first of my SIGNA seeds. They sibs always come up first.
>
> Colleen Modra
> South Aust
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wendy sargeant <wendon@dcsi.net.au>
> To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com <iris-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, July 02, 2001 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [iris-talk]:CHAT;My Foggy Memory.
>
>
> >Hello Jan and All,
> >Sorry Jan to dob you in but you were the first person I thought of who
> could
> >help Paul Tyermans questions:). Yes you were correct, I did get your new
> >arils confused with Junos..oops. It has been so cold here lately and at
the
> >moment I am trapped inside by a large heavy blanket of fog again. It is
so
> >thick outside that I cant even see the end of my driveway, let alone
drive
> >over to ride my horses at their stables.Definately not safe here as there
> >are often accidents on our local roads due to the lack of
> >visibility....Imagine if a cow strayed out, oh no that is a bad thought.
> >Any how my brain must have got a little foggy too and the memory banks
have
> >nearly frozen up. I wish I could get inside the heater but I think a very
> >hot shower might warm me up.
> >So you have sold your house, if so that must be a relief, and your moving
> >too?...I hope the new house has a large garden so you can plant all your
> >treasures..At the moment all my irises are covered in fog mist and what
> >seems to have been a bit of a frost. All the dutch irises leaves have
> >flopped over and are looking a bit limp. At least the days when they
clear
> >are sunny.Lots of retics are sticking their noses out along with the
other
> >squillions of bulbs,, ie, trilliums, many daffs, species and hybrids,
> >tulips,crocus, alliums and many more,, Roll on Spring. Don is counting
the
> >days till we have a 20 degree C day, he hates winter.......Brr for Now
from
> >Wendy Sargeant in Victoria, Austrlia, Zone 8ish....
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jan Clark" <janclarx@h otmail.com>
> >To: <iris-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 10:34 PM
> >Subject: [iris-talk] (unknown)
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >I dont know if this will be of much help but I got a lot of info
> >regarding
> >> >the growth patterns of many of your irises from Jan Clark
> >>
> >> LOL - since I have been dobbed in, I had better reply. Paul - are you a
> >> member of the ARILROBIN? They might be able to give you some answers.
> They
> >> have had extensive discussions re germination lately.
> >>
> >> >Jan might be able to help you further as she is a mine of helpful info
> >and
> >> >has quite a collection of Junos etc from what I can remember.
> >>
> >> No junos here, sorry to say, only a few seeds which haven't been
planted.
> >I
> >> would love info re germinating and growing these, in about a zone 8. I
am
> >> moving in 3 months to a climate similar to Pauls in Canberra
(Creswick -
> >> north of Ballarat) I will be disappointed if it doesn't snow at least
> once
> >a
> >> year. Not many frosts, they usually have a good blanket of fog every
> >morning
> >> in winter.
> >> I do have a lot of Aribreds, courtesy of Sam Fankhauser. That is
probably
> >> what Wendy was thinking of. I am pleased to say they are looking very
> >> healthy, and might give me some bloom this season.
> >> Cheers, Jan
> >> > > Iris mandshurica
> >> > > Iris thunbergii
> >> > > Iris sogdiana
> >> > > Iris haynii
> >> > > Iris jordana
> >> > > Iris stolonifera
> >> > > Iris koreana
> >> > > Iris latifolia
> >> > > Iris caucasica
> >> > > Iris sikkimensis
> >> > > Iris aucheri
> >> > > Iris magnifica
> >> > >
> >> > > If anyone has information on any or all of these species then I >
> >would
> >> >be most appreciative of some of it. I know almost nothing > about
most
> >of
> >> >these species (some I cannot even find in reference > books, others
> there
> >> >are references to, but nothing much else.
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > > Paul Tyerman
> >> > > Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 13:17:15 +0930
> From: "Impressive Irises" <irises@senet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Bill's Book
>
> Excuse the bad spelling I meant "I elegantissima"
>
> Colleen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Impressive Irises <irises@senet.com.au>
> To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com <iris-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, July 02, 2001 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [iris-talk] Bill's Book
>
>
> >Having found a chance to devour Bill's Book. I can't praise it enough.
One
> >of the best no nonsense gardening books I've ever read. Fine for
Australian
> >readers. Just insert Aust for where you read Califorina/Texas and ignore
> >advice for New England etc. Doesn't have the all the fancy photos of
Graeme
> >Grosvenor's book but the info is a lot clearer.
> >
> >Speaking of fancy photos I'm doing this on one computer, while my scanner
> is
> >busy on the other printing off some photo's for an aril grower friend,
Pat
> >Toolan. If anything gives me the "gimme s" its a photo of I eleglisimata
or
> >hermona.
> >
> >Colleen Modra
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Gerry Snyder <gerrysnyder@mediaone.net>
> >To: iris-talk@yahoogroups.com <iris-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> >Date: Monday, July 02, 2001 4:33 AM
> >Subject: Re: [iris-talk] SPEC : Species information please?
> >
> >
> >>Paul Tyerman wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Howdy Wendy,
> >>>
> >>> >Iris, Flower of the Rainbow by Graeme Grosvenor and of course Bill
> >Shears
> >>> >marvellous book.
> >>>
> >>> The Grosvenor book I have misplaced. I own it but can't find it at
the
> >>> moment. Don't own Bill's book either.
> >>
> >>You should.
> >>
> >>The AIS board is, rather, ahem, conservative in most matters. The AIS
> >>storefront had never carried a non-AIS publication. After the board
> >>saw Bill's book, it authorized the storefront to carry it.
> >>
> >>'Nuff said.
> >>
> >>Gerry
> >>--
> >>g*@mediaone.net
> >>Gerry Snyder, AIS Symposium Chair, Region 15 RVP
> >>Member San Fernando Valley, Southern California Iris Societies
> >>in warm, winterless Los Angeles--USDA 9b-ish, Sunset 18-19
> >>my work: helping generate data for: http://galileo.jpl.nasa.gov/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 04:46:10
> From: "Jan Clark" <janclarx@hotmail.com>
> Subject: CULT: Options for growing irises in a new garden.
>
> Firstly - my apologies for sending a letter with no subject this morning.
I
> am operating from digest, and deleted the heading, but forgot to replace
it
> with an appropriate one.
> I am just back home from paying a visit to my soon to be new garden. The
> garden in a little over 3/4 acre (almost 7/8). It has a number of
different
> microclimates. My first consideration is - how am I going to fit around
600
> bearded irises, plus as many seedlings?
> I will be buying a rotary hoe and will make some new garden beds almost
> immediately. I have never had to do anything on such a grand scale.
> The soil is good, but a little stale and compacted. The current owners
have
> done little, except to plant a few things that need pulling out. They main
> efforts include a stone wall - rockery, and lots of unhealthy looking
roses
> growing straggly up to the eaves of the house.
> The roses will go, along with 4 large, overgrown wattle trees, which are
> taking up large areas of garden. They will be replaced by deciduous
trees -
> probably Jap Maples.
> The back are, over the septic drainage runs is very wet, and will need
> agricultural drainage, and beds for beardeds in that area will need to be
> raised.
> The whole block presents several microclimates:
> 1. Dry slope, on the sunny side of the house, some tall gum trees, which
> don't cast heavy shade.
> 2. Wet, slightly sloping, good deep soil.
> 3. Dry flat areas along sides, deep soil.
> 4. Dry stone retaining wall, with planting spaces. Good soil, perhaps a
> little tired.
> 5. Dry shade under pine trees.
>
> The plants I wish to grow are Irises - TB, IB, SDB. I am prepared to give
up
> quite a few TB's but not the little guys.
> Daylilies - about 60 cv's
> Siberians - have a few, and happy to get more.
> Drought tolerant perennials.
> Cool climate bulbs (I see daff's everywhere in that area)
> Arilbred irises - happy to leave them in large pots.
> Pacific Coast irises - I am hoping these will like the dry, shade under
the
> pine trees.
>
> I need suggestions for each microclimate. I think the soil is neutral to
> slightly acidic. The rhododendrons look healthy.
> The climate is cold winter, few frosts, snows occassionally. hot dry
summer.
> I also need suggestions for revitalising compacted soil.
> I intend to buy a rotary hoe, manure, and lots of pea or alfalfa straw. We
> move there in early Spring.
> I think if the wet area is still a problem after putting in aggie drains,
I
> will run a board walk down the centre, and grow Siberians, day lilies, and
> perhaps Spurias.
>
> All ideas appreciated.
> Cheers, Jan Clark, in Australia.
>
>
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