Re: HYB: REB: mixing cold climate & CA

Come to think of it, Jean Plank let us know that Return To Bayberry (my ugliest creation IMO) rebloomed for them several times over the past year. Not unusual, but what excited her, other than the fact that it matched the color of her living room, was that it sent up bloom stalks during winter. The weather turned cold, 20 F., and the stalks stopped their progress but didn't burn off and die. As soon as the nights warmed up a bit the stalks started progressing again which then led to normal rebloom. If I am remembering right this has happened more than once with RTB. Based on this information we started using RTB in our breeding program this past spring. Wonder if this trait can be carried on....???. 
Mike Sutton
----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Smith" <irisgrower@cableone.net> 
To: <iris@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: REB: mixing cold climate & CA



Betty,
All the replies to this have been most interesting. It really opens up a new 
line of thought for me.
Thanks for taking the time to explain.

I know from animal planet shows there are species, that if conditions are
not right, they delay birth.
We need a smart rhizome that can predict the weather.  Like in my area, I
know not to plant my tomato plants until the mesquite buds.  Somehow this
plant knows when the last freeze will be.

This also brings me back to my rebloom talk about what is a rebloomer.
Laura Frazier, I think made some good points, Do we count a rebloomer for 
our area if in fact a freeze came and froze the bloom.  To me, it is not a
rebloomer for my area.  So as reblooming chairman, I've made a decision,
that to count it a rebloomer for my area, it has to rebloom on it's own
outside and have enough sense to know when the next freeze will be and
adjust it's self or it is not considered a rebloom in my area.

Does that make any sense.?? What do others think??

Linda in CW AZ
-------Original Message-------

From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
Date: 07/24/07 10:43:12
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: Re: [iris] HYB: REB: mixing cold climate & CA

In a message dated 7/24/2007 11:41:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
lmann@lock-net.com writes:

<<this question may be mostly for you,>>
Linda, I'll give this more thought and give another answer later, but here 
s
my disclaimer for now!

My program like many others has evolved through the years.  My  original
goal
was to recreate my favorites in rebloom--Orange Star, Laced  Cotton,
Michigan
Pride, etc.  Fat chance!  Just so much I didn't know  about iris breeding.
Then, I started combining CA rebloomers with northern rebloomers. My goal here was simple. Improve the form of northern rebloomers while (hopefully) maintaining the rebloom factor. A bit easier than the first goal. Though 
not
quite as simplistic as some thought.  I had little  hope of achieving my
goals
in the first generation. I feel Radiant Bliss (example) was just a bonus I 
got for good intentions, and the luck of using Earl  of Essex.
My goals were not soil oriented at the time. Just survival oriented. The 
seedlings that survive make better parents!   <vbg>  Plus, I refused to
listen
to "you can't do that!" "or good  luck on THAT one!"

Hot Steak would not live for me, but I crossed it onto Earl of Essex and
most of the seedlings lived!  Some did not.
My goals are a bit more evolved now, but I still use the "what would happen 
if" technique a bit too much!  EX: "What would happen if" I crossed Tara's
Choice x Again & Again!  Or Clarence?  Guess I'll know in the  spring!
<vbg>

As to summer rebloom?  I'll have to go back through my records for
specifics.  Oh . . . The 1810 cross has a number that have bloomed in  the
summer . . .


(((Victoria Falls x Vanity) x Immortality) x (Latest Style x Glistening
Icicle))) x (Feed Back x Champagne Elegance) X Light Rebuff.

Here we have Victoria Falls (OR), Vanity, Feed Back, & Glistening  Icicle,
(CA) which are all from the west coast.  Champagne Elegance (MO)  & Light
Rebuff
(IN) came from inland gardens, while Immortality & Latest  Style came from
the east coast (VA).  Quite a mix?

The pod parent was a nice blue amoena which did not rebloom for me,
although
some of the seedlings used did rebloom.  When I added Light Rebuff  to the
mix, almost half of the seedlings rebloomed.  About a quarter of  them
bloomed
in the summer.  June-Oct 15.

Is this the type of information you're looking for?  I'll read it  again
later!



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