Re: Re: REB: Final Episode, sporadic

Sorry, I'm really not proof reading well, today.  These dates were
meant to read June through fall freeze.  Both.
<<Multiple rebloomers -- can, and often do, send up stalks from June -B July.B B Sporadic rebloomser--occasionally send up a stalk from June - July.B >> 



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Sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: [iris] Re: REB: Final Episode, sporadic
Linda,B B All I have are opinions, personal beliefs.B B Sometimes my terminology is all my own. To my knowledge, no one hasB designated the specific classes of individual cultivars which rebloom.B <vbg>B B The terms "repeat bloom" and "cycle bloom" seem rather selfB explanatory, to me.B B Sporadic and multiple rebloomers are both sporadic. No one canB designate just when any of them will rebloom. (other than passing onB what has happened in the past.)B B Multiple rebloomers -- can, and often do, send up stalks from June -B July.B B Sporadic rebloomser--occasionally send up a stalk from June - July.B B As I see it, the difference between the two is frequency of rebloom.B Their triggers/requirements seem to be different.B B Sporadic rebloomers primarily bloom is more moderate climates, like CAB & Australia. They rarely rebloom for me. It is possible that some ofB the sporadic rebloomers are cycle rebloomers and only "occasionally"B rebloom in the fall? Of course! Since I do not live in any of theseB locals, I can not make that determination.B B Maybe one day, someone will make it their goal to record the DATES whenB and where all of these bloom? Richard Richards is the only person in CAB that reports this way to the Recorder. Unless, or until, this happens,B I don't see how we can further classify the sporadic rebloomers.B B Last year, Joe Ghio send me a rhizome of COMFORTABLE, which contained aB stalk. I received the shipment just after July 4 so I concluded itB gives summer bloom in CA. Or did at least one time. Since it was notB maiden bloom, I feel free to classify it as a "sporadic summerB rebloomer."B B <<Betty, you've often mentioned sporadic rebloom, especially inB reference to CA and Oz reports of rebloom.B >>B B Not sure that helps any?B B Betty W.B Bridge In Time IrisesB KYB Zone 6B B -----Original Message-----B From: Linda Mann <lmann@lock-net.com>B To: iris@hort.netB Sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:16 amB Subject: [iris] Re: REB: Final Episode, sporadicB B I emailed Barry Blyth to ask about rebloom habit of FINAL EPISODE. HeB replied that some 80 to 90% of all irises can rebloom now and then,B even if with just one stalk. He also says that with his growingB conditions, they can bloom any time of year. He doesn't try to keepB track of what reblooms and what doesn't. They re-set every year, whichB doesn't allow for much rebloom.B B FINAL E is "a good rebloomer when it is left for 2 seasons, floweringB any time".B B Never thought I'd see Barry B use the words "good" and "rebloomer" inB the same sentence! ;-)B B So, not sure what to make of this re: "summer" rebloom breedingB potential in my growing conditions.B B Betty, you've often mentioned sporadic rebloom, especially in referenceB to CA and Oz reports of rebloom.B B If Chuck is correct, that cycle and "summer" rebloom are separate setsB of genes/alleles, do you think the sporadic rebloomers might carry theB 'summer" rebloom genes or the "cycle" genes or neither, and justB outgrow their bloom inhibiting hormones & not really have any genes forB rebloom at all? Wouldn't <that> be a bummer!B B So far, the only rebloom I've seen in the seedling patch using sporadicB rebloomers in crosses with "summer" bloomers has been cycle (andB sometimes often only maiden fall bloom).B B I guess those of us making these types of 1/6 and 1/36 probability ofB summer rebloom will maybe know the answer to that question in a fewB years. Or I should say we may know what some of the answers aren't...B B The FINAL E crosses made this year are the first I've made with aB 'sporadic' rebloomer registered as RE. Another one that would have beenB <very> interesting to cross with IMM....B B Betty, FE is quite short here, well below registered height, but putB some better roots under it, and it should pass along height.B -- Linda 
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